Just picked up a 31

billyo · Post by **billyo** » Oct 3rd, '10, 09:04

Went in on what appears to be a great Bertram 31. It is on its way to Costa Rica as i write. I am from assachusetts and will take on the adventure of running a charter business with my native friend capt Eddy in CR. Anyone here familiar with this boat ?

In Memory Walter K · Post by **In Memory Walter K** » Oct 3rd, '10, 09:14

Images haven't appeared.

billyo · Post by **billyo** » Oct 3rd, '10, 09:19

I can't figure out how on this site.(Sorry) But i do have some posted on another site http://www.newenglandfishing.net/index. ... opic=39331

Anyways it has twin yanmars and appears to be in great shape. I am glad to have found this site so as when i have questions this looks like a great place to get answers.

CaptPatrick · Post by **CaptPatrick** » Oct 3rd, '10, 10:06

How to post images and links

billyo · Post by **billyo** » Oct 3rd, '10, 10:23

Thanks capt.A little different from what i am used to but i'll get it sooner or later.. I do not do well with CHANGE..

Harry Babb · Post by **Harry Babb** » Oct 3rd, '10, 10:40

Was the pic that you posted taken near Greenport NY?

This past summer we were on our way to ISLIP, after leaving the Greenport Rendezvous, when I noticed a 31 on the hill for sale.

Billyo wrote: I do not do well with CHANGE..

As it turns out a lot of us are feeling the same way.....I'll stop here so that the Capt does not move my post to the Politics page.....LOL

hb

billyo · Post by **billyo** » Oct 3rd, '10, 11:00

Pic was taken in Southold NY.. Boat is on the back of a truck right now headed to Fla and on to Costa Rica. No more snow for me..

Charlie J · Post by **Charlie J** » Oct 3rd, '10, 11:55

harry
thats the one, best of luck with her, iam sure she will love her new home

bob lico · Post by **bob lico** » Oct 3rd, '10, 12:23

i guess coming from long island we all know the former owner . i have family on shelter island and dock there a couple of weeks a year . go thing the owner didn`t drive this boat like he drive cars!!! i came along side him in the paconic i wave and we both drop the hammer together that boats runs 31knots maybe a little more. beautiful boat ,well taken care of.

Bob H. · Post by **Bob H.** » Oct 3rd, '10, 18:35

Good luck with her, life with no more snow....jealous.

Ric · Post by **Ric** » Oct 4th, '10, 07:04

bilyo.,.,.,.can you give me the particulars on your boats journey to costa rica .,.,.are you using dockwise ,,i have begun an investigation of bringing my boat to costa rica ,.,.,seems thru the panama canal and arround to golfito ,,I was considering quepos as its destination. They just built a brand new marina there and slips to own are going for 200/250 k.,.,I was wondering about taxes fees and other information needed to bring the boat into the country ,,forms paperwork? a costa rican Lawyer?,, is your boat traveling out of miami or Lauderdale? what will be its destination,,there are a few charter opoerations in Guanacaste (northwest pacific) using 31 berts ,,I saw 5 31 berts on moorings in quepos(southwest pacific) last year at this time.,.,.,I myself have a serious itch to make a move,,I was wondering if we could could keep in touch.,.,.,my e/mail is kidkoo@aol.com

spencer · Post by **spencer** » Oct 4th, '10, 08:52

was there in quepos a approx 9 months ago, fishing was excellent and they were in the process of building the marina, looks first class,

Lot of americans there , running charters out of quepos, and a lot of americans living there in the town.

billyo · Post by **billyo** » Oct 4th, '10, 09:44

Ric wrote:bilyo.,.,.,.can you give me the particulars on your boats journey to costa rica .,.,.are you using dockwise ,,i have begun an investigation of bringing my boat to costa rica ,.,.,seems thru the panama canal and arround to golfito ,,I was considering quepos as its destination. They just built a brand new marina there and slips to own are going for 200/250 k.,.,I was wondering about taxes fees and other information needed to bring the boat into the country ,,forms paperwork? a costa rican Lawyer?,, is your boat traveling out of miami or Lauderdale? what will be its destination,,there are a few charter opoerations in Guanacaste (northwest pacific) using 31 berts ,,I saw 5 31 berts on moorings in quepos(southwest pacific) last year at this time.,.,.,I myself have a serious itch to make a move,,I was wondering if we could could keep in touch.,.,.,my e/mail is kidkoo@aol.com

Email sent

mike ohlstein · Post by **mike ohlstein** » Oct 4th, '10, 10:57

We should all move there. Start our own lodge with a fleet of B31's.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Oct 4th, '10, 11:08

Mean Mike,
Let's do it!

Charlie J · Post by **Charlie J** » Oct 4th, '10, 11:33

i could do that

tjhartsr · Post by **tjhartsr** » Oct 4th, '10, 12:33

the ex owner has some props 11/8 i think as well as some front window covers?fyi,i have his e mail if anyone needs ,tom

Bertramp · Post by **Bertramp** » Oct 4th, '10, 14:09

bob lico wrote:i guess coming from long island we all know the former owner . i have family on shelter island and dock there a couple of weeks a year . go thing the owner didn`t drive this boat like he drive cars!!! i came along side him in the paconic i wave and we both drop the hammer together that boats runs 31knots maybe a little more. beautiful boat ,well taken care of.

was prior owner the guy "from the town of Oyster Bay long island" ?

randall · Post by **randall** » Oct 4th, '10, 17:17

Brewster Minton · Post by **Brewster Minton** » Oct 4th, '10, 17:48

When I was 9 we would go to the Wales Tail and stand on our bike seats and drink beers watching this guy play the piano and sing. I think thats his boat.

wmachovina · Post by **wmachovina** » Oct 4th, '10, 18:16

I think the boat originally was owned by a Delta/Northeast Captain and was called Yellowbird. Bill

ianupton · Post by **ianupton** » Oct 4th, '10, 19:52

Brewster - "when I was 9 ... ... drink beer... ..."

My oldest is 8. I may have lived a sheltered life, but the only beer I ever drank at that age was taking sips from my fathers'.

Ian.

Brewster Minton · Post by **Brewster Minton** » Oct 4th, '10, 20:02

The windows behind the bar were held open with 2x4s. The bartender would give us beers for 2$ a glass. We would look through the bottles and watch Billy play. We did not know who he was. Now when I think of it I dont think he was anybody then. Beer was the least of what we were doing wrong at 9. Im still here so....

Harv · Post by **Harv** » Oct 4th, '10, 20:05

ianupton wrote:Brewster - "when I was 9 ... ... drink beer... ..."

My oldest is 8. I may have lived a sheltered life, but the only beer I ever drank at that age was taking sips from my fathers'.

Ian.

The only beer I drank at that age was was Root...
and the only ale I drank was Ginger...

Tony Meola · Post by **Tony Meola** » Oct 4th, '10, 21:08

Sounds like Brew was a Baaaaaad Boy!

randall · Post by **randall** » Oct 5th, '10, 08:51

i saw him play a bar on LI before his first album and talked to him out on the sidewalk...nice guy then and the few times i talked to him since....nice guy now. he's opening a bike shop up island. and he builds some really outstanding boats.

didnt drink beer at 9. but got my first boat at 12 and then all hell broke loose. mom had to come bail me out!

gonna keep that name?

billyo · Post by **billyo** » Oct 5th, '10, 09:21

Are you guys saying the former owner was BJ ? and is that why its named Rock Star?

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Oct 5th, '10, 09:32

If that was BJ's boat he bought it from a member of the Faithful in FL. Told the story at a UVI. He didn't know who the purchaser was, even after meeting him. Just some guy who flew in to look at and then buy his 31. Later someone at his marina who saw the purchaser identified him for our member. Vic will remember who.

Charlie J · Post by **Charlie J** » Oct 5th, '10, 09:56

iam confused and that does not take much, i thought tom harts boat cleo was bjs

Dug · Post by **Dug** » Oct 5th, '10, 10:03

It was Charlie, you are right.

The previous owner of this boat was Davidms I believe.

He was sad to see her go, but I think he hopes she is going to a good home. Tom Ward was the broker.

Dug

Charlie J · Post by **Charlie J** » Oct 5th, '10, 10:25

yes dug
and at one time he wanted to part out the tower

Dug · Post by **Dug** » Oct 5th, '10, 11:06

Brand new tower and riggers...

randall · Post by **randall** » Oct 5th, '10, 12:18

beats me about the boat.....but i dont remember davids boat as "rock star"

bob lico · Post by **bob lico** » Oct 5th, '10, 12:30

what hp yanmars werein that boat? charlie , dug are you saying there was another owner after bj and the boat kept the same name?

Charlie J · Post by **Charlie J** » Oct 5th, '10, 12:52

we need to have fred giese chime in on this subject, hes using the old new engines that apparently came out of bjs boat.
hello fred, you out there

billyo · Post by **billyo** » Oct 5th, '10, 13:39

Dug wrote:It was Charlie, you are right.

The previous owner of this boat was Davidms I believe.

He was sad to see her go, but I think he hopes she is going to a good home. Tom Ward was the broker.

Dug

She is going to a great new home (Never to see snow again) It has 225HP Yanmars and who ever the previous owner was he or she has a free day fishing in Costa Rica on me.

bob lico · Post by **bob lico** » Oct 5th, '10, 14:10

225hp yanmars? that not what it had when i saw it. 4cyl. would be 230hp older 240hp newer ----6cyl 250 hp or 315hp newer version /all mechanical engines .

billyo · Post by **billyo** » Oct 5th, '10, 14:51

bob lico wrote:225hp yanmars? that not what it had when i saw it. 4cyl. would be 230hp older 240hp newer ----6cyl 250 hp or 315hp newer version /all mechanical engines .

Well as you can see i don't YET know much about these things .But yes they are 4cyl and the survey said "Yanmar MODEL / HP: 4LHA-STE / 226 hp" But i will take your word. I don't know if that is older or newer. I will add you could eat off them..

Dug · Post by **Dug** » Oct 5th, '10, 14:56

I assumed it was Daves boat. I don't think Billy would have named his boat Rock Star. Just doesn't seem like his way of doing things. I believe his boat was the one that was next to me in Greenport, named Chloe.

Anyway, good luck with the boat. I hope you serve each other well!

For sure!

bob lico · Post by **bob lico** » Oct 5th, '10, 15:02

your right dug not his way judging from the custom boats he made on shelter island. i am confused to say the least.

Charlie J · Post by **Charlie J** » Oct 5th, '10, 15:35

billyo
the 4lha ste are 230s same engine iam running, great engines

bob lico · Post by **bob lico** » Oct 5th, '10, 16:33

billyo you cannot do better then those 230 hp yanmars for fuel economy ,especially in a charter boat. my son corrected me ,we saw the boat in the distance and overtook on a diagonal course thats why she appear that fast.the guy driving was not bj. the top was a differant style.anyways lots of luck in your new endeavor you have a great start!

billyo · Post by **billyo** » Oct 5th, '10, 19:01

bob lico wrote:billyo you cannot do better then those 230 hp yanmars for fuel economy ,especially in a charter boat. my son corrected me ,we saw the boat in the distance and overtook on a diagonal course thats why she appear that fast.the guy driving was not bj. the top was a differant style.anyways lots of luck in your new endeavor you have a great start!

I was not there for the sea trial. ( I couldn't be there unfortunately)I sent a boat mechanic down for that. He claims that they hit 31 knots at WOT.I am not sure that was possible but it was what i was told.Either way I do understand that the yanmars in it are very economical for our intentions and i have a skidsteer with a yanmar that has 4,200 trouble free hours and purrs like a chicken. Like i said i will keep my fingers crossed.I was skeptical on becoming a part owner on a boat that was 40 years old But my partner who has been on boats his whole life assured me that B31's are built for the long run and age was not nearly as important as condition. I will trust his many years experience and give it a shot. He swears by these boats.

In Memory Walter K · Post by **In Memory Walter K** » Oct 5th, '10, 19:47

So do we!

randall · Post by **randall** » Oct 5th, '10, 20:01

no way on the 31 knots but you will never have to explain to anyone that knows anything about boats why you bought a bertram. this crew is just an unforeseen bonus. a very big one.

CaptPatrick · Post by **CaptPatrick** » Oct 5th, '10, 20:24

The 4LH Yanmars will push a B31 to 31 knots and maybe a touch faster,,,,,,, IF:

The boat is very lightly loaded, low on fuel, running with a stiff wind at your transom, and/or running with a stiff current...

28 - 29 kt is the norm for these engines coupled with 2:1 gears in B31 at wot. Should be able to cruise all day at 24 kt, conditions permitting.

I was skeptical on becoming a part owner

The fastest sinking vessel has always been a partner ship...

In Memory of Vicroy · Post by **In Memory of Vicroy** » Oct 5th, '10, 20:40

BJ bought his B31 from the late Sonny Morrel in SW FL. Sonny attended a UVI or 2. Sonny put the Cummins in and BJ sold those motors to Fred, then installed 315 Yanmars. It was yellow when Sonny had her and think the name was "Yellow Bird"? Sonny was a retired Delta pilot and died a few years ago. I have a few pix of him and some of the other Faithful on the dock at Port Eads opening a bottle of wine with an Easy Out chucked up in a cordless drill. Some of Sonny's pilot stories were over-the-top funny. Great guy and we miss him.

UV

CaptPatrick · Post by **CaptPatrick** » Oct 5th, '10, 21:00

R.I.P Sonny....

Charlie J · Post by **Charlie J** » Oct 6th, '10, 05:30

ive had mine up to 32kts on the right conditions

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Oct 6th, '10, 10:51

Thanks, Vic, Pat. Great memories. That was UVI II.
Behind Sonny is Capt Mike Holmes, who had an express that came to a bad end in a hurricane. He still writes boating and fishing articles for several magazines. Think he still lurks about even though his Black Sheep is gone.

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