Fire in the hole!

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Sep 24th, '07, 07:09

After five years of sitting I have finally gotten to that point. Re-installed the injectors, new oil, new fuel, bled the system according to Vic's simple rules, added plenty of deororant-destroying high anxiety and they both fired right up. WHEW! God bless Cummins. What a great sound. Killed mosquitoes for miles around. All instruments came to life. What a day.
Now, the bad news. My port ZF has an oil leak at the rear end, not at the seal. It appears (although I will need to remove layers of paint to be sure) that it is coming from one of the two short (1/4"?) tubes that run diagonally across the back. So now I have several questions before I panic. How do I get a manual? If it is the tubes, can they be replaced by my with the tranny in the boat? Can I do this job? Where do I go from here?
HELP!

Dug · Post by **Dug** » Sep 24th, '07, 07:39

Mikey,

Congratulations!!!! Feels good doesn't it! Once again, congratulations!

Dug

Chiles · Post by **Chiles** » Sep 24th, '07, 07:44

Mikey,
That is great, great news about your engines coming to life. Glad to hear your guages are working too. Not only is your wiring pretty, but it works too!!

I remember some time ago that Bruce or UV mentioned that those tubes were weak spots because they can rust or something. I wonder if I am remembering that correctly.

If that's the case, you should go ahead and put trolling valves in while you are in them. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you.

-Chiles

In Memory of Vicroy · Post by **In Memory of Vicroy** » Sep 24th, '07, 07:59

Way to go Mikey!!! The tubes are not a big deal to change....they have o-rings too. They are held in place with a clamp and one allen head screw. They are high carbon steel and will rust out quickly if not kept painted and CX-ed. But it may just be an o-ring.

I have manuals for the 220As on the boat, but someone told me they were on line somewhere.

UV

Rawleigh · Post by **Rawleigh** » Sep 24th, '07, 08:10

Go Mikey!!! Yea!! What a relief! If you bring the new ones over here I can put a little POR15 paint on them so you never have to worry about them again.

Chiles · Post by **Chiles** » Sep 24th, '07, 08:11

Yeap, that's what UV said some time ago.

Why is it that I can remember what UV wrote well over a year ago, but can't remember what my girlfriend told me yesterday?!?

I may have to get her to start posting her "honey-do's" on this site. :)

-Chiles

In Memory of Vicroy · Post by **In Memory of Vicroy** » Sep 24th, '07, 10:10

Mikey - look on the ZF site, www.zf.com and go to 'marine' then 'transmissions single speed' then 'pleasure duty' and click on the 220A and there are some downloads and a real good pix of the rear of the gear where you can see the two little tubes and the clamp allen screw.

UV

Capt. Mike Holmes · Post by **Capt. Mike Holmes** » Sep 24th, '07, 10:16

Mikey, glad to hear you fired them up. It probably wasn't ever a question of if they would crank, just when. The tranny deal is probably real minor. My only worry would be the electrical system. Anything that looks that good just cannot work as well as wires running willy-nilly with oil and grease all over everything!

chris pague · Post by **chris pague** » Sep 24th, '07, 15:15

Mikey; Way to go. Glad to hear all is well and the engines are alive.
Trans should not be that much of a prob. Go see The Big R.
Chris

John F. · Post by **John F.** » Sep 24th, '07, 17:07

Go get 'em Mikey. That's gotta' be great to hear those diesels after all the time and effort. Congrats.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Sep 24th, '07, 18:28

Thanks guys. Got to tell you I stared with the starboard engine because it was the easiest to access. Of course being an express the controls are right above the starboard engine. So . . . with the engine box open I straddled the box and engine and when it started the noise scared me so badly I immediately hit the ignition switch and killed it.
Told a friend about it after telling him about the tranny leak which I discovered from the brown trail in the bilge. His reply was that the brown trail came from my excitement. Could be.
Now if the tranny problem is as I suspect where does one buy ZF parts? Can't find it on line.

In Memory of Vicroy · Post by **In Memory of Vicroy** » Sep 24th, '07, 18:58

Mikey - try:

Marine Transmission Center (part of Mack Boring) 800 709 0673, www.marinetransmission.com

There is a place in Lake Charles, La. that stocks a ton of ZF stuff but they did not have an ad in this week's B&H. I threw my old B&Hs away today cleaning up the shop, but usually there are a half dozen gear shops that advertise there and handle ZF parts. Go on the marine gear section of zf.com and they have a dealer locator page.

UV

Harry Babb · Post by **Harry Babb** » Sep 24th, '07, 21:00

Thats good news Mikey......Give yourself an "Attaboy"
5 years..........thats a long time.........once again persistence wins

Harry Babb

scot · Post by **scot** » Sep 24th, '07, 22:26

Why to go Mikey...I know what a 5 year project is like and it is nice to hear engines fire up. Unfortunately I didn't learn my lesson and I'm in another 4-5 year re-do.

UV, I work in Lake Chuck and need the name of the ZF parts outlet... if you run across it, do they advertise in B&H?

Bruce · Post by **Bruce** » Sep 25th, '07, 06:58

Mikey,
After a few hours of dock running do a valve check and/or adjustment before sea trialing. Cold engine of course.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Sep 25th, '07, 08:17

Bruce,
Learned my lesson years ago racing Porsches. No valve adjustment, no start. Did it last week. Thanks.
Vic,
Will check your sources. Need to get a copy of B&H. Been saying this as long as I've been saying join boatdiesel.com. Finally did that and it has helped heaps.
Aircleaners from Tony and I think the engines will be ready.

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