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It was a good weekend to get some work done! I glued and glassed the wing electronics boxes and got some fairing compound on them hope fully I can finish up this week and put some primer on. Image Image Image
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Sprayed three coats of high build primer on this weekend now back to sanding!! Image Image
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I’m jealous everyday. Incredible work.
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Jason, do you work for Bertram or Viking or somebody.... Looks like your a bit more than an "enthusiast"

You are making it look easy and I know it is NOT
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Beautiful!
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Where is all the dust? Or the over spray???
If I was doing this I am sure it would all over my neighbors lawns and houses...it would look like the North Pole.

How do you do it and keep everything so nicey nice??? Amazing job
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The original Bertram wiring with both upstairs and downstairs ignition switches that need to be on has foiled many thieves I bet. It even foils me if I am not careful! LOL!
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Thanks guys!! I tape off when I spray and only one neighbor has a car I ask him to put in the garage. I bought the https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/collision-r ... on-system/
It’s great it doesn’t put out to much overspray. This is the first spray gun I ever owned. It is a very simple system.
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You know Jason...you are starting to make me believe that I might be capable of a few of the things you have shown us...IDK tho LOL
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Jason

Reallyt starting to take shape. You do some nice work.

She is going to look great.
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Snipe wrote: Sep 27th, '21, 17:52 I bought the https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/collision-r ... on-system/
It’s great it doesn’t put out to much overspray. This is the first spray gun I ever owned. It is a very simple system.
Your results are wonderful and I appreciate you sharing the tools. What size/type compressor do you use?
Keep up the good work!
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I started off with a small 30gallon air compressor but I was getting a lot of moisture and it had a hard time keeping up. So I upgraded to an Ingersol Rand 60 gallon and built a custom aftercooler for the air and a couple filter driers. I am getting much better results now. Image Image Image
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Only thing that worked well for me was a refrigerant air dryer, adding that made a huge difference...my machines do not like moisture.
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Carl the airline right out of the head used to dump right into the tank putting really hot air right in. I bought that heavy duty transmission cooler and plumed through that before putting the air in the tank and the fan for the air compressor cools the cooler it works pretty well with the two separators at the tank and one 15ft from the spray gun or tool that I am using. Of coarse I am not running a shop like you but works well for the home garage!!
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Thanks gentlemen-
Sorry for the derail. I'm looking forward to the next pictures of your good work.
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Where did you get the cooler for the compressor??
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The cooler was from Amazon and I bought the mounting kit as well it worked good.
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The company Hayden makes other sizes also. I liked this one because it’s threaded on the input and output sides.
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I had the very brief pleasure to finally meet Jason in person and see his boat. We had about 30 minutes in the rain with my family sitting in the car, we were on the way to a surprise party.

Pictures almost don’t do it justice, we often see pictures and when you get up close it’s not quite perfect. Everything he’s touched on the boat is AAA work. Great guy, unbelievable work and very giving of his time with someone who had 30 minutes to see as much as possible.
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Thanks Pete it was nice to meet you. Today I worked on the fly bridge overhang first I hated the little lip I tripped on all the time second It was a little spongy in the middle so I am hoping this will stiffen it up a little. Image[/[url=https://imgur.com/5QDB3SX]Image[/[url=https://imgur.com/oa8ggou]Image[/[url=https://imgur.com/DeHVzWw]Image[/[url=https://imgur.com/vzVJCoK]Image[/[url=https://imgur.com/qnQDQQp]Image
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Now that is interesting.
I wonder if the channel you created is going to be a catch all for dirt.
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Tony it is tapered down and will be glassed into the original drain lip.I got the idea from Jim Swaggler. This is his boat Swagger Image
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Now I get it. That looks really neat. I like it. And the toe rail and fb accents on Swaggler look amazing. Beautiful B31
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Cut the glass put some fillets in and layed up two layers of 1708. With just the two laminated pieces of 1/2” coosa glued in it stiffened it up some. Can’t wait to see how it feels with the glass on it. Hopefully the weather holds up and I can get it faired and painted. Image Image Image Image
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Looks great.
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Nice

I like the idea.
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I agree. Its on my list
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Jason,

What thickness Coosa did you use for the flybridge?
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Rick I used two layers of 1/2” coosa and layed up two layers of 1708
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Interesting. I asked because I thought you were using something smaller than 1/2", not two layers of 1/2"!
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Rick this was it today after fairing and filling and blocking it down. Image Image
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Jason

Thanks for letting me stop by the other day! If I did not have another 70 miles to drive I would have had a few beers with you...

To all following this thread the "Snipe" is a work of art. The quality of craftsmanship of all the work is bar-none. I have always considered myself an above average guy when it comes to being able to do all kinds of things and Jason has showed me that he is on a different level. His willingness to share and help is another attribute that he has. I am glad that Jason is on this board because he has a lot to offer!

I can not wait to hear about her first sea-trial in 2022
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Question for you guys repowering with the cummins 5.9.

What is the distance from the inside of the hull to the center line of the Crankshaft? I'm going to have to move my shaft outboard about 3 inches to accommodate the Cummins from the Volvos
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Thank you Frank it was a pleasure to meet you.
Rick I can measure when I get home later today
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incredible fiberglass and painting ability. i lean something today adding a cooler to the air compressor.
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Thank you Bob I used some of your innovations along the way!!


Rick I took some measurements for you the first is off of the outboard stringer
The second one is off the inside of the hull. If you need any thing else let me know. Image[/[url=https://imgur.com/wwOmySd]Image
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Jason,

Dang! Even the mundane parts of the boat are beautiful.

Awesome work sir.

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Thanks Jason,

We built a model and your measurements will help up verify what we are seeing on our end.
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DanielM wrote: Oct 19th, '21, 21:33 Jason,

Dang! Even the mundane parts of the boat are beautiful.

Awesome work sir.

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You should see the rudder shelf.
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PeterPalmieri wrote: Oct 20th, '21, 16:24 You should see the rudder shelf.
Ok now you have gotten my attention. Jason lets see this work of art.
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Tony I don’t know if I have any good pics I will have to Image Image Image Image Image Image
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Impressive.
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Pretty work!
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Snipe wrote: Oct 21st, '21, 09:27 Image
Thanks for sharing the details on this great project. That is remarkable work.
Do I see a PVC cap in the upper left corner of the photo above?
Is that space reserved for a thru-hull?
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Yes there is a thruhull with a cap it was there when I bought the boat. I think it was intended to be a drain for the deck hatches.
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Jason

Capt. Pat would be proud of you. That is some really nice work.
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With the clock ticking on good weather days I decided to spray some paint today! Despite the leaves,bugs,dirt,bird poop I got some paint on not to bad for an in the elements paint job. Now to hope the shine stays on overnight!! Spray and pray!! Image Image Image Image Image Image
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Jason:

The work looks incredible. All this while balancing on a chain link fence. Well done.

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WOW !!! really nice work
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So sadly I got home from work to find out I lost the gamble it rained and I lost the paint job. There were rain drops all in it. I guess that was just practice for next time. Start sanding and prepping hope I get a good day to spray again before the cold sets in.
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Well it was looking good. Are you spraying AllGrip or Alexseal?

From what I understand, Alexseal is more forgiving of the cold.
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