Dinette table hardware
Moderators: CaptPatrick, mike ohlstein, Bruce
- PeterPalmieri
- Senior Member
- Posts: 2612
- Joined: Nov 12th, '10, 11:26
- Location: Babylon, NY
Dinette table hardware
I’m having a friend who’s built me a few instruments make me a table for the boat. It’s going to sound great made of maple mahogany and walnut HAHA.
I can reuse the hardware that is mounted on the end of the table and on the bulkhead but if I can find new stock I might as well. Also need an idea for ah hinge for the leg and some ideas if I should use a stainless pole as a leg or flat or round wood? As the current leg is not really well done.
Any ideas? Source for parts etc would be very helpful.
I can reuse the hardware that is mounted on the end of the table and on the bulkhead but if I can find new stock I might as well. Also need an idea for ah hinge for the leg and some ideas if I should use a stainless pole as a leg or flat or round wood? As the current leg is not really well done.
Any ideas? Source for parts etc would be very helpful.
1969 31 Bertram FBC "East Wind" hull #315939
- PeterPalmieri
- Senior Member
- Posts: 2612
- Joined: Nov 12th, '10, 11:26
- Location: Babylon, NY
Re: Dinette table hardware
1969 31 Bertram FBC "East Wind" hull #315939
Re: Dinette table hardware
Great response to your own question..??
Yes those are the table brackets that can be used to convert table to a sleeper.
Yes those are the table brackets that can be used to convert table to a sleeper.
- PeterPalmieri
- Senior Member
- Posts: 2612
- Joined: Nov 12th, '10, 11:26
- Location: Babylon, NY
Re: Dinette table hardware
Thanks Carl. Still looking for a hinged leg
1969 31 Bertram FBC "East Wind" hull #315939
- mike ohlstein
- Site Admin
- Posts: 2394
- Joined: Jun 29th, '06, 11:39
- Location: So many things seem like no-brainers until you run into someone with no brain.
- Contact:
Re: Dinette table hardware
If I was building one, I would use heavy walled aluminum tubing. Easy to fabricate, and might someday come in handy as a tool.
- PeterPalmieri
- Senior Member
- Posts: 2612
- Joined: Nov 12th, '10, 11:26
- Location: Babylon, NY
Re: Dinette table hardware
Mike that's a great Idea that I have been considering.
What I can't do is mount a base plate as there is a hatch in the deck. So I could use a mounting plate underneath the table with a large rubber cap on the bottom of the leg. Is that what you were thinking?
What I can't do is mount a base plate as there is a hatch in the deck. So I could use a mounting plate underneath the table with a large rubber cap on the bottom of the leg. Is that what you were thinking?
1969 31 Bertram FBC "East Wind" hull #315939
Re: Dinette table hardware
Peter---try Taco----https://tacomarine.com/table-pedestals-2-
Re: Dinette table hardware
Pete, it is much simpler than you think.
I would design a leg the way I want it to look, made out of teak or mahogany so it looks nice, and I would attach it under the table, say 10cm from its starboard extremity.
I would attach it with a simple but robust SS hinge on the invisible side so it retracts towards the port side. Or, I would put a folding ( L Shaped hinge that clicks when expanded, like the ones that were used in the old music pick-ups that held the lid open) that would also keep it secure in the open (leg down) position.
So I would look for a nice piece of wood and a hinge, thats all!
On the window side I’d use what you propose yourself.
Good luck.
I would design a leg the way I want it to look, made out of teak or mahogany so it looks nice, and I would attach it under the table, say 10cm from its starboard extremity.
I would attach it with a simple but robust SS hinge on the invisible side so it retracts towards the port side. Or, I would put a folding ( L Shaped hinge that clicks when expanded, like the ones that were used in the old music pick-ups that held the lid open) that would also keep it secure in the open (leg down) position.
So I would look for a nice piece of wood and a hinge, thats all!
On the window side I’d use what you propose yourself.
Good luck.
1973 B28 FBC/2007 4LHA STP's - "Phantom Duck" - Hull "BER 00794 1172"
- mike ohlstein
- Site Admin
- Posts: 2394
- Joined: Jun 29th, '06, 11:39
- Location: So many things seem like no-brainers until you run into someone with no brain.
- Contact:
Re: Dinette table hardware
I was thinking about a couple of these and a pole. Replace the set screws with a thumbscrew.PeterPalmieri wrote:Mike that's a great Idea that I have been considering.
What I can't do is mount a base plate as there is a hatch in the deck. So I could use a mounting plate underneath the table with a large rubber cap on the bottom of the leg. Is that what you were thinking?
https://www.bosunsupplies.com/S3650-0901.html
The hatch has a fitting there for the table leg. Just replace it. I'm trying to find something that will accept 1.5" tube.....
Re: Dinette table hardware
PeterPalmieri wrote:Thanks Carl. Still looking for a hinged leg
Piece of U Channel or Wood U shape with 3/16" hole drill across for a pin (long bolt).
This gets mounted to table underside.
Leg fits inside up channel with crossdrilled hole to accept pin in fork.
Bottom of leg fits into a small plug in floor, a low profile cup or make a dimple in base of leg that fits into a hole/(cup) inserted in floor.
Inside of table needs a U clip to hold leg when table is removed.
Re: Dinette table hardware
Pete-
Thanks for posting this.
I had contacted High Tide for these "hinges" because I saw them pictured on their website. But after several call found out they no-longer carry them.
Best,
Stephan
Thanks for posting this.
I had contacted High Tide for these "hinges" because I saw them pictured on their website. But after several call found out they no-longer carry them.
Best,
Stephan
Possunt quia posse videntur
- PeterPalmieri
- Senior Member
- Posts: 2612
- Joined: Nov 12th, '10, 11:26
- Location: Babylon, NY
Re: Dinette table hardware
Here is a sample of the finish on the mahogany table.
https://imgur.com/gallery/sf5MmYU
Table bracket I ordered
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002I ... UTF8&psc=1
28" folding leg
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KB ... UTF8&psc=1
https://imgur.com/gallery/sf5MmYU
Table bracket I ordered
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002I ... UTF8&psc=1
28" folding leg
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KB ... UTF8&psc=1
1969 31 Bertram FBC "East Wind" hull #315939
Re: Dinette table hardware
Ut Oh!!
Its becoming one of those boats you have to wipe your shoes off before going in!
LOl, looking good Pete, that table will really dress up the galley.
Its becoming one of those boats you have to wipe your shoes off before going in!
LOl, looking good Pete, that table will really dress up the galley.
- PeterPalmieri
- Senior Member
- Posts: 2612
- Joined: Nov 12th, '10, 11:26
- Location: Babylon, NY
Re: Dinette table hardware
Don't get me started Carl, I'm about to cave and put a curtain in the head.
1969 31 Bertram FBC "East Wind" hull #315939
Re: Dinette table hardware
PeterPalmieri wrote:Don't get me started Carl, I'm about to cave and put a curtain in the head.
Go for it!
Save the fight for something important...
- Pete Fallon
- Senior Member
- Posts: 1318
- Joined: Jun 29th, '06, 23:10
- Location: Stuart Fl. and Salem, Ma.
Re: Dinette table hardware
Carl,
If your going to use an aluminum pole for a table leg, I found that rubber crutch tips work the best will not slip like a plain rubber cap. I also used them on my helm and companion seat stainless steel legs. Having a bad knee does have it's benefit sometimes.
Pete Fallon
If your going to use an aluminum pole for a table leg, I found that rubber crutch tips work the best will not slip like a plain rubber cap. I also used them on my helm and companion seat stainless steel legs. Having a bad knee does have it's benefit sometimes.
Pete Fallon
Re: Dinette table hardware
Pete Fallon wrote: Having a bad knee does have it's benefit sometimes.
Pete Fallon
Thats it Pete, keep looking at the bright side.
Can't believe all you went through with the other knee...to finally get that one good (it's still is doing well right??).
...to finally get that one good and screw up the other one.
Man you must have really pissed off the wrong person...
Re: Dinette table hardware
Pete-
I had curtains in the head and removed them in favor of privacy glass.
The curtains I had tended to keep their bunched (stowed) shape and left seams at the edges when we wanted privacy. Perhaps more importantly they made the head very dark.
I think I used https://www.lowes.com/pd/GILA-Privacy-C ... lm/1103227 it was very inexpensive, easy to install and I did not have to care about it getting damp or musty. At night with the light on inside the head you can just see shadows but during the day it lets a lot of light in.
Enjoy the boat.
Stephan
I had curtains in the head and removed them in favor of privacy glass.
The curtains I had tended to keep their bunched (stowed) shape and left seams at the edges when we wanted privacy. Perhaps more importantly they made the head very dark.
I think I used https://www.lowes.com/pd/GILA-Privacy-C ... lm/1103227 it was very inexpensive, easy to install and I did not have to care about it getting damp or musty. At night with the light on inside the head you can just see shadows but during the day it lets a lot of light in.
Enjoy the boat.
Stephan
Possunt quia posse videntur
- PeterPalmieri
- Senior Member
- Posts: 2612
- Joined: Nov 12th, '10, 11:26
- Location: Babylon, NY
Re: Dinette table hardware
Looks great, that will dress up the cabin nicely.
I may see one in my future...as I have a feeling mine is gonna need a bit of TLC after being used as a work bench / storage table.
I may see one in my future...as I have a feeling mine is gonna need a bit of TLC after being used as a work bench / storage table.
-
- Senior Member
- Posts: 907
- Joined: Jan 3rd, '07, 00:28
- Location: Lindenhurst, NY
- Contact:
Re: Dinette table hardware
Soon to come:AC
- PeterPalmieri
- Senior Member
- Posts: 2612
- Joined: Nov 12th, '10, 11:26
- Location: Babylon, NY
Re: Dinette table hardware
I’m renaming the boat nightgown.Raybo Marine NY wrote:Soon to come:AC
1969 31 Bertram FBC "East Wind" hull #315939
- PeterPalmieri
- Senior Member
- Posts: 2612
- Joined: Nov 12th, '10, 11:26
- Location: Babylon, NY
Re: Dinette table hardware
1969 31 Bertram FBC "East Wind" hull #315939
Re: Dinette table hardware
Looks great.
What kind of material did you use on the cabin sole?
What kind of material did you use on the cabin sole?
Peter Schauss
Water-Lou
1978 B31 SF (BERG 1727M781-314)
Water-Lou
1978 B31 SF (BERG 1727M781-314)
-
- Senior Member
- Posts: 7036
- Joined: Jun 29th, '06, 21:24
- Location: Hillsdale, New Jersey
- Contact:
Re: Dinette table hardware
Peter
That is sweet. Looks like it might get used as as sleeping area for the kids. Are you going to protect it so it does not get scratched up by the back of the seat cushions?
That is sweet. Looks like it might get used as as sleeping area for the kids. Are you going to protect it so it does not get scratched up by the back of the seat cushions?
1975 FBC BERG1467-315
- PeterPalmieri
- Senior Member
- Posts: 2612
- Joined: Nov 12th, '10, 11:26
- Location: Babylon, NY
Re: Dinette table hardware
It’s solid mahogany. I’m not sure if I will just lay a towel over it or have a cover made for when I’m not using it or when it’s inserted into the berth.
The sole is a teak and holly plastic laminate.
The sole is a teak and holly plastic laminate.
1969 31 Bertram FBC "East Wind" hull #315939
Re: Dinette table hardware
The table looks great.
1968 B20 Moppie - Hull # 201-937
1969 B31 FBC - Hull # 315-881 (sold)
1977 B31 FBC - Hull # BERG1652M77J (sold)
1969 B31 FBC - Hull # 315-881 (sold)
1977 B31 FBC - Hull # BERG1652M77J (sold)
- PeterPalmieri
- Senior Member
- Posts: 2612
- Joined: Nov 12th, '10, 11:26
- Location: Babylon, NY
Re: Dinette table hardware
FYI, My friend Andrew Drake made the table for me. Great guy and very reasonable price if anyone is interested.
https://www.drakecustombass.com/
https://www.drakecustombass.com/
1969 31 Bertram FBC "East Wind" hull #315939
-
- Senior Member
- Posts: 7036
- Joined: Jun 29th, '06, 21:24
- Location: Hillsdale, New Jersey
- Contact:
Re: Dinette table hardware
Peter
It is too nice to scratch up. I would cover it when it is in the down position.
It is too nice to scratch up. I would cover it when it is in the down position.
1975 FBC BERG1467-315
Re: Dinette table hardware
Pete,
It’s like when you paint the living room and decide to finish with the mess and not continue with painting the rest of the house...
The minute you step into the room next door, you get a visual shock and silently whisper - I should have painted this room too!
(the impression of the brand new table against the old dark formica of the benches).
It’s like when you paint the living room and decide to finish with the mess and not continue with painting the rest of the house...
The minute you step into the room next door, you get a visual shock and silently whisper - I should have painted this room too!
(the impression of the brand new table against the old dark formica of the benches).
1973 B28 FBC/2007 4LHA STP's - "Phantom Duck" - Hull "BER 00794 1172"
- PeterPalmieri
- Senior Member
- Posts: 2612
- Joined: Nov 12th, '10, 11:26
- Location: Babylon, NY
Re: Dinette table hardware
Yannis I'm with you, just trying to take it a little at a time.
I have been torn between painting the dinette area or putting on new formica. I've also thought of removing them over the winter to work on at home. The problem is I want to work on it in the off season but the weather is to cold down at the boat to paint or use glue. I don't want to do the work when we can be out using the boat and removing it doesn't seem to be that easy.
I have been torn between painting the dinette area or putting on new formica. I've also thought of removing them over the winter to work on at home. The problem is I want to work on it in the off season but the weather is to cold down at the boat to paint or use glue. I don't want to do the work when we can be out using the boat and removing it doesn't seem to be that easy.
1969 31 Bertram FBC "East Wind" hull #315939
Re: Dinette table hardware
Pete,
When I did mine, finding how to remove the benches wasn't the main problem. It seemed quite straightforward.
The thing was how to unscrew the old straight screws (not Philips) which had already been used so much, that there was no meat for the screwdriver to catch on.
I was not going to modify or replicate the old benches, as I had planned to install a straight couch in the area - without a table, I resorted to another drastic method that implied another tool,...the hammer! And out the door the wooden pieces flew!
When I did mine, finding how to remove the benches wasn't the main problem. It seemed quite straightforward.
The thing was how to unscrew the old straight screws (not Philips) which had already been used so much, that there was no meat for the screwdriver to catch on.
I was not going to modify or replicate the old benches, as I had planned to install a straight couch in the area - without a table, I resorted to another drastic method that implied another tool,...the hammer! And out the door the wooden pieces flew!
1973 B28 FBC/2007 4LHA STP's - "Phantom Duck" - Hull "BER 00794 1172"
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 416 guests