repower

1962 31 · Post by **1962 31** » Oct 22nd, '15, 06:25

pulled the boat early to start my diesel project should be out and cleaned up this weekend

1962 31 · Post by **1962 31** » Oct 22nd, '15, 08:36

transmission options
my twin disc 502 rebuilt 3200 each
new zf220a with everything 4287 each or rto used set for 5k
was also looking at the zf63a 8 degree down angle new ones would be around 2300 each
what do you think my best bet is??

Tony Meola · Post by **Tony Meola** » Oct 22nd, '15, 20:20

Tom

Don't know if it helps but, I have the 220's behind my 270 Cummins.

While you are in there, beef up the strut pad area and put in Fiberglass shaft logs.

1962 31 · Post by **1962 31** » Oct 27th, '15, 08:17

grind grind grind

my other east · Post by **my other east** » Oct 27th, '15, 09:27

man, does that bring back memories.......

John F. · Post by **John F.** » Oct 27th, '15, 10:15

Thanks for posting. I find the repower threads really interesting and helpful.

Navatech · Post by **Navatech** » Oct 27th, '15, 11:52

IMHO, at this time, you should, at least, consider drip less shaft seals...

STraenkle · Post by **STraenkle** » Oct 27th, '15, 11:52

Man I can feel that itchy fiberglass dust from here. What did you take out EFI 454s?

PeterPalmieri · Post by **PeterPalmieri** » Oct 27th, '15, 12:09

Good luck!

STraenkle · Post by **STraenkle** » Oct 27th, '15, 13:07

Navatech, Looks like dripless to me, shaft log is just as crooked as mine were, but looks like the same PSS I have now.

Navatech · Post by **Navatech** » Oct 27th, '15, 13:12

STraenkle wrote:looks like the same PSS I have now.

Nope... Look very good at the 1st picture in the "grind grind grind" post... Those do NOT like drip less seals to me... In fact, they look like standard shaft seals to me...

1962 31 · Post by **1962 31** » Oct 27th, '15, 14:39

yup marine power 454 multi port motors
they are standard shaft seals not sure im going to have the coin to go dripless just yet

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Oct 27th, '15, 15:38

Nice work on the grinding. That looks real clean now. Thanks for posting these motivating pictures.
Best,
Stephan

Dug · Post by **Dug** » Oct 27th, '15, 20:21

Looks great! And I am right there with you. The memories!!!!

Tony Meola · Post by **Tony Meola** » Oct 27th, '15, 20:53

Pros and cons to drip less shaft seals. If anything goes wrong with them when you are offshore, it is going to be a real long ride home. At least with packing, and if you use gortex, you can jury rig something to get home safely.

I kept the conventional seals. When we re-powered the Diesel Dealer said, Keep it Simple.

1962 31 · Post by **1962 31** » Oct 29th, '15, 14:35

before and after

Joseph Fikentscher · Post by **Joseph Fikentscher** » Oct 29th, '15, 14:51

Looks Great!!

Tony Meola · Post by **Tony Meola** » Oct 29th, '15, 20:43

Tom

Looks great. Keep pushing.

1962 31 · Post by **1962 31** » Nov 2nd, '15, 07:53

Tony Meola · Post by **Tony Meola** » Nov 2nd, '15, 21:49

Tom

Do two thinkgs, make sure you build outboard shelves to set Batteries, generator, holding tank etc on.

Also, the two in board stringers, the ones in the companion way, should be cut low enough so you can reach under the engines.

Capt.Frank · Post by **Capt.Frank** » Nov 2nd, '15, 21:57

Tom,
Is that pvc board? Tony is right about the shelves nows the time to do it, no engines in the way. You look like you are busy at it. Keep up the hard work your here those things purr soon.

1962 31 · Post by **1962 31** » Nov 3rd, '15, 10:57

pvc board or I think they call it coracell??
it has a surface on it already scuffed to be able to glass to
im making a small shelf for autopilot on starboard side
was actually going to make one that has bins for storage of oil filters ect
the inboard stringers are stock height with mahogany to sister to them im going to build ramps to go to engine mounts
waiting on my gears and the boat to go inside to set up gantry crane and mock all that up
none of that is happening today as im ditching work and going to find some stripers take advantage of this nice weather

Bob H. · Post by **Bob H.** » Nov 3rd, '15, 18:36

Looking good Tom...just stripping it all out and getting it clean and prepped is a TON of work..oh the memories this brings back..BH

1962 31 · Post by **1962 31** » Nov 4th, '15, 07:34

got em

Navatech · Post by **Navatech** » Nov 4th, '15, 10:01

1962 31 wrote:im making a small shelf for autopilot on starboard side

I presume you're talking about the autopilot's pump... I put mine under the console on the flybridge... According to Pascal's Law it doesn't matter where you put the pump but I'd rather have it as dry as possible...

mike ohlstein · Post by **mike ohlstein** » Nov 4th, '15, 10:20

Navatech wrote:I presume you're talking about the autopilot's pump... I put mine under the console on the flybridge... According to Pascal's Law it doesn't matter where you put the pump but I'd rather have it as dry as possible...

X2

1962 31 · Post by **1962 31** » Nov 4th, '15, 16:06

all the steering components are starting to age so they are on the list of upgrades but not yet
when I redo the steering ill definitely put it under the helm that's a good idea

John F. · Post by **John F.** » Nov 4th, '15, 18:23

Nice fish.

Tony Meola · Post by **Tony Meola** » Nov 4th, '15, 20:50

Great day to be out on the water. Did you north or south of the inlet? I heard they were down towards Seaside.

1962 31 · Post by **1962 31** » Nov 5th, '15, 07:30

tony thunderbird area a little offshore of the fleet had our 4 slot fish and 1 over at 44 inches
get out there its HOT right now
took her top off last night

1962 31 · Post by **1962 31** » Nov 16th, '15, 17:01

finally in the shed for the winter

1962 31 · Post by **1962 31** » Nov 16th, '15, 17:15

Tony Meola · Post by **Tony Meola** » Nov 16th, '15, 20:59

A warm place to work for the winter. Will you have her in by May or are you shooting for an earlier date? You are at the point of rebuilding the whole back end even if that is not your plan. You will be going, might as well fix that or this while I am here.

Best of Luck

MarkD · Post by **MarkD** » Nov 16th, '15, 21:54

You are going to be very busy this winter! Keep the beer fridge full:)

PeterPalmieri · Post by **PeterPalmieri** » Nov 16th, '15, 22:19

She sure is looking good since I saw her in Greenport 2014!

1962 31 · Post by **1962 31** » Nov 17th, '15, 09:01

tony no heat in the barn but there is a fridge and power!!!
much better than my last years storage
I would like to be in by may we will see im going to try and get a motor in this weekend
I am also bringing mt hard top structure down south to get repaired and while im at it going to recore the hard top and fix all the extra holes in it
and thank you peter

1962 31 · Post by **1962 31** » Nov 17th, '15, 18:44

Tony Meola · Post by **Tony Meola** » Nov 17th, '15, 22:24

No social time for you this winter. You will be locked up in that barn.

34Hatt · Post by **34Hatt** » Nov 18th, '15, 07:49

Tom

Here is what I did when I did my engines worked great closed it in under the boat and put a torpedo heater in there with a thermo stat set it for about 95 degrees and had radiant heat. Epoxy and paint dried in a flash and no smell or fumes from the heater.

Good luck with the repower.

Dan

bob lico · Post by **bob lico** » Nov 18th, '15, 14:00

i like that idea 34hatt very smart.never could figure out a way to cover bottom in boatyard situation because inside storage in maint. building is a no,no with a nice paint job.they spray in there all the time and one way or another you will get overspray. with power available you can use one of those inexpensive oil filled radiator heaters with no flame or odor inside canvas . maintains about 65 degree all winter in cabin and if i work in covered cockpit area i add another heater.

1962 31 · Post by **1962 31** » Nov 22nd, '15, 20:13

Got some work done this weekend set up the gantry and got 1 motor yo the shop for some mock up
All the mounts I made seem to be good but I would like to move the motor farther forward for more clearance
Shafts are not in my budget right now
Has anyone used a bobbin coupling they make them in 4 5 and 6 inch lengths

Tony Meola · Post by **Tony Meola** » Nov 22nd, '15, 22:29

Tom

You should be still good with those engines and 13/8 shaft. Don't move the engines too far forward. You need to be able to get at the belts etc. Also, she seems to prefer to have a little more weight towards the stern.

1962 31 · Post by **1962 31** » Nov 23rd, '15, 07:41

Tony Meola · Post by **Tony Meola** » Nov 23rd, '15, 21:58

Tom

Nice set up. Did you build it from scratch?

1962 31 · Post by **1962 31** » Nov 24th, '15, 10:16

tony I ended up buying all new so much easier when wheels roll and bearings move

Tony Meola · Post by **Tony Meola** » Nov 24th, '15, 21:37

I agree. Now you can go into the boat re-power business.

Rocket · Post by **Rocket** » Nov 24th, '15, 22:27

I am sure you know this already, but be careful with those gantry cranes. We had one in the shop whose nickname was Flipper and it wasn't for the dolphin! They do not like side loading or sudden stops at all...

Be careful it all happens quickly and with heavy things!

1962 31 · Post by **1962 31** » Nov 29th, '15, 11:09

John F. · Post by **John F.** » Nov 29th, '15, 14:36

Looks great. You're flying along.

bob lico · Post by **bob lico** » Nov 29th, '15, 19:14

terrible installation you better PM me before going on. why did you not go with ZF IRM 220A -----10 degree down angle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!