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Question About the 1970 B31 Half Hull Wall Plaques

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I've been a long time boater and Bertram/Ray Hunt fan. I don't currently own a Bertram...at least not a full size one! I do have one of those B31 half hull wall plaques, however, that were issued in 1970 to celebrate the 1000th hull being made.

I've read every post that mentions this plaque on the older bulletin board where there was mention of the intention of these being reproduced. Does anyone know if this ever happened? There does not seem to be any mention of these plaques that I can find using the search function on this (the new) bulletin board.

Basically, I am trying to figure out if the one I have is an original or a reproduction. What is throwing me off is that my B31 plaque does not have any of the markings on it that are mentioned in the older posts...in fact, I cannot find any markings on it at all.

I'd really like to see a photo of one of the originals if anyone has one and is able to post. From what I understand, the 1000th hull plaques were all just the half HULL....not the full half of the boat (like the one pictured in the Bertram Legend book on page 132).

Any input is greatly appreciated.
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I have ONLY seen half hull plaques that were of the hull only. There was talk of duplicating one for selling to the bretheren.
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Please Post a photo of your half hull plaque.

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If someone was to make them I would love to buy one for sure.
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Hmmm ... let's think ... who do we know that is a TRUE artist with wood ?
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Ya, but his work costs big $$$$
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I didn't mention any names .... of people on the east end of LI ... that have a real nice B25 with inboards ..... nope, I did not :-D

I wonder if they could be made with a one off mold and then just resin "pop-outs" afterwards.
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Its already been tried.

The problem arises from the labor time involved to make a nice finished product that's affordable and the maker can make a few bucks.

Its not just the individual models its also figuring the time it takes to build and maintain a mold.
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Not a half hull but a pretty cool full model



http://www.todddunnmicroyachts.com/2007/bertram31.html
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That full model is gorgeous, but I'll bet I paid less for my 13' Whaler.

I did a quick search and emailed these guys.
http://www.halfhull.net/

I'll inform of their response, but the prices for what I see seem reasonable.
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There is another manufacturer that makes a really nice model.

http://www.seacraftclassics.com/store/p ... rtram.html

gorgeous, but at 16" for $2,300 ... it's over $1,000 a foot. B31s in the early 1960s were probably right around the $1,000 a foot range and can still take the family for a ride !! Not quite in my current budget.
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If someone has a half hull model available I might be able to make something happen.
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Post by RHG »

Bruce wrote:Its already been tried.

The problem arises from the labor time involved to make a nice finished product that's affordable and the maker can make a few bucks.

Its not just the individual models its also figuring the time it takes to build and maintain a mold.
So it sounds like the repros never happened then. So that would confirm my thoughts about mine being an original. Anyway, it still does not have the plate/markings that say 1000th Hull/10th Aniversary/1970/etc. which is curious.

I'll post a pic of mine later today when I get home from work.
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Nice model, but I can't say much for that upholstery!! Yuck!
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Post by Bruce »

I was refering to one of our own trying it here.
Can't say whether someone outside this group has tried.

When a final estimate of price was given at 500 bucks or so most here passed.
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the truth is that at one time i built models for a living. i built models for architects and worked for disney for a few years. i would love to build bertram models... but, like learning to fly bi-planes ,i have grown to realize there just aint that much time in one life.

hope someone does it
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Post by jspiezio »

It can easily be machined if you guys have an existing model I can digitize.
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1977 B31 (315 Cummins) Build thread --->https://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-ho ... model.html
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Post by RHG »

As requested, here's a pic of my plaque. If anyone has a photo they can post of one of the plaques that HAS the 1970/1000th hull inscription, I'd love to see it.

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