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Post by auguste »

Let me introduce myself

I am a Canadian but we spend quite a few months a year in the Outer Banks of North Carolina . . . we have a slip at Pirates Cove Marina there.

We just purchased the Bertram and should be picking it up on the first week of November

The Bert has been updated in the last five years both inside and outside as well as engines, mechanicals etc.

I look forward to learning here

Anyone have old pictures of these 38s . . . would love to see what they looked like before all the restoration work was done

Many thanks

Auguste

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i remember you from years ago when i played around a bit on THT. welcome aboard. i however dont know a damn thing about 38s....but good luck with her.
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Welcome aboard. Is that a 38 wide body I think they called them? Nice boat you will love it over you old boat.

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Welcome aboard.....you picked a good place to play and talk boats.....and most anything else for that matter.

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Congrats on the new to you Bertram..an old timer has a 38 at the same marina as my dads 37 Bertram...38 is a tank...heavy and well built what do you have for power? Like most of the old Bertrams overbuilt..bh
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Post by In Memory Walter K »

Is that one of the blue and white ones? Welcome aboard!
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Post by Tommy »

Auguste,

Welcome aboard. Glad to have you in a Bertram, and glad to have you on our Outer Banks.


Capt Frank,

The 38 widebody that you refer to is the 38 SF that Bertram built from 1970-1975.

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There was a very early one that had a hull that looked like a very big 31 hull. Built like a tank, wasn't fast by today's standards but very comfortable to ride in.
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Post by Capt.Frank »

Thanks Tommy. I have only scene a couple over the years looked like a real nice boat.
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Post by auguste »

I am not an very knowledgeable about the evolution of Bertram hulls but Ed Riverio (previous Bertram owner) and CB Hawes (current Bertram owner) out of NJ have been helping me along.

The 38 (1963 version) is essentially a 31 hull but 7 ft longer and with a 14 ft 6 in wide beam . . . only 13 were built by Bertram

I am told that the 38s produced years after mine were quite different hulls

You are correct that it is not a fast boat . . . it was repowered with Cat 3208s at 375 hp each and cruises comfortably and economically at 20 mph at about 1 for 1 with a top speed in the 27 to 29 mph range depending on sea conditions etc.

I was surprised during the sea trials in that it planed in the 12 to13 mph range

Randall, yup, I was the 'posting whore' on THT but post there very little now

Once I figure out how to post pictures I will put a few up for your viewing

Thanks for the warm welcomes everyone
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Gus,

Glad to see after many trials and tribulations you finally made a purchase (and a Bertram to boot!).

Good luck and welcome aboard.
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This is the old low profile trunk cabin 38 correct?

There was one for sale up by me called "Spray Daze". It was always well cared for, hope that was the one you got.
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Post by auguste »

dougl33

Thanks. I have (officially) been looking (with money in bank) for a boat that fits both my fishing needs and within my budget for about a year and a half. Only waiting for the engine survey to be completed by a Cat specialist . . . but they run like a charm (I am an old diesel mechanic). The horror stories I could tell about the many boats I inspected and the brokers who I ran into, but that is for another day.

I hope to have her in the Outer Banks the first week of November

JP Dalik

You are exactly correct . . . Spray Daze is the boat. She is beautifully laid out for fishing . . . only the electronics need a bit of freshinging up . . . the current owner and his dad are a class act and they took great care of the boat . . . lots of great upgrades to make it a true sport fisher
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Post by jspiezio »

The '63 38 is listed on here. cool boat.

http://www.used-bertram.com/hystory/affichHistory.php
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Post by jackryan »

Congrats on the new boat. Here's the add for Spray Daze:

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/ ... 13104&url=

Nice looking boat. Good luck with her.

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Auguste,

Good luck with her. Real fishy boat it'll be perfect in the outer banks.

Catch em up.
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Post by auguste »

Thanks everyone

Figured out how to post a picture

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More to come when I pick up the boat
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The above pic was taken recently after many upgrades

She still retains her classic lines
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Welcome and best of luck with her.
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Here are a bunch of pics that were taken during the hull survey, plus a bit of history


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Post by In Memory Walter K »

You now have a great boat, a bargain for what you got, a classic hull and design, and a whole bunch of new friends. Nobody today builds a 38 the way that boat is built. There used to be one in Montauk many years ago, but I don't know where it went. All the best! Walter
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Post by Tommy »

Capt Frank,

Upon further review, it appears that the 1970-75 Bertram 38 sportfishermen were built on the same hull as the 1963 that Auguste posted. He said his was 38' and a beam of 14'6". I pulled the specs on the 1970-75 38s, and it shows 37'8" with a beam of 14'5". Given the beams of each boat, they would both be considered "wide body" Berts compared to the later Bertram 38s (1983 B-38, 13'3" beam).

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What a cool old boat. Nice.
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Post by Tony Meola »

Looks real clean for her age. They just don't build them like that anymore.

Best of luck with her.
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Post by ed c. »

I used to mate on a 38 bert. The back was not enclosed, the owner had taken it to Florida in the winter. Very comfortable boat. Good Luck
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Post by Capt.Frank »

Tommy,
Thanks I have only seen a few over the years and had been told they were wide body boats never herd of that model. Thanks again.
Auguste Good luck with the new boat
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Post by auguste »

:-D UPDATE

Hull survey went first class and initial engine survey looks great

Engine oil samples taken and waiting for results

Hope to pick up theboat around 4th of November, weather permitting
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Really cool and rare boat, congrats. How's she ride?

If any of the faithful are interested, I know of another of these early B38's which is for sale down my way... Same boat, original looking, not as sharp as Spray Daze though...
She's been tied up in Manatee Bay Marina for a few years, which is the marina/boatyard about halfway down the 18mile stretch for those in the area.
Recently had a for sale posted on her with a lauderdale phone#. I'll get the # if anyone's interested...
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Post by auguste »

The oil tests came out first class

I am supposed to be in NJ Thursday AM to finish the deal

Buju Ride . . . the sea conditions were relatively flat . . . went through some wakes and didn't even notice them (well almost :) )
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Post by Charlie »

Good luck with her Gus. maybe I will see at PC sometime soon.
Glad you found Spray Daze.
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Charlie wrote:Good luck with her Gus. maybe I will see at PC sometime soon.
Glad you found Spray Daze.
Thanks Charlie . . . and Morehead City chasing the big girls :) BFT :)
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Auguste:

Have you heard of this B38 ?

http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/bertr ... rtram.html

FYI there's one here too in Nassau,Bahamas that is pretty much a stock boat still and has been in charter fishing forever..........
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Took possession of the boat last Thursday and provisioned it Friday. Plan was to get to OBX Sunday evening.

Left Saturday morning and didn't get 2 miles when we wrapped a rope around the prop. Had to go back and get the boat pulled. I cut the rope, 3/4 poly. Luckly no damage. By noon we were back on the water.

Plan was to get to Ocean City Saturday night. We ran into a storm (not forecasted Saturday morning) four hours from Cape May. Remember we are a 20 kt cruise.

We encounter true 6 footers spaced at 3.2 seconds (info off of the weather buoys today). The boat handled the weather well, we slowed to 12 kts. . . we really got tossed but it never slammed hard . . . busted my camera but other than that no damage

We travelled a couple of hours Sunday (late start as fuel dock not open till late morning) and decided we would not be able to reach Oregon Inlet before dark, something I didn't want to do.

Stopped at Ocean City and decided to leave the boat at the marina. We will go back down after the forecasted storm is over later this week. and finish the trip to OBX NC.
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Post by auguste »

Preston Burrows wrote:Auguste:

Have you heard of this B38 ?

http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/bertr ... rtram.html

FYI there's one here too in Nassau,Bahamas that is pretty much a stock boat still and has been in charter fishing forever..........
Thanks for the link.

Will do a search on the one in the Bahama's
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