Need a little direction,after I hauled noticed no zincs on the port shaft all the others in place.Last season had most of the zincs gone and I repaired rear bilge wires which were hanging in bilge water.Checked boat to my port his zincs were all good,not sure where or what to look for?Thanks again to all for any help and Happy Thanksgiving.
Bill G.
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Mike,.............there was someone to port and plugged in and I did look at his boat when hauled and his zincs were all good?.I use 2 zincs each shaft so I don't think both would fall off.
Your neighbor boat could very well be the source of a stray current that eats only your zincs. A simple thing such as a bad galvanic isolator on his boat could cause it. There is only one way to be sure what is happening: testing.
To check out your boat and it's zincs, you will need a Silver/Silver-Chloride Reference Rlectrode and a good quality digital multimeter. You dangle the electrode over the side and read DC voltages.
When conducting this test, a vessel’s bonding system should have with a DC voltage between -900 mV and -1100 mV (relative to a silver/silver-chloride electrode) to properly protect underwater metals from galvanic corrosion. Readings less than -900 mV indicate the cathodic protection system (zincs) is weak and/or failing. Readings higher than -1150 mV indicate overprotection (over-zinked), a situation that could damage underwater steel, aluminum alloys and and wooden thru-hull backer plates.
Start taking readings with nothing connected to the boat (no shore power) and everything OFF. Voltage readings changing dramatically as you turn electrical circuits on or off indicate a problem with that particular circuit leaking out current into the water. You shold check each AC and DC circuit and appliance, one at a time.
Don't forget to check with your engines running too. An alternator that does not have an independent ground wire back to the battery can throw big stray currents.
If your boat comes out clean, then you either have bonding system troubles, or there are stray currents from a source other than your boat. Both are easy to test for.
The most common stray current path is from your shore power ground. Test your galvanic isolator to see if it is doing it's job. There will probably be a small voltage (less than 1.0 V) across it's terminals, this is normal. Take a curent reading however, and any current at all running through it means it's not working. If a stray current's voltage exceeds 1.5 volts then your galvanic isolator will be overpowered anyway - that is all it can stop.
I would also take a reading with everything as is, then disconnect the neighbor's shore power (with his permission of course) and take another. If the readings are different... bingo
Testing your bonding system has been documented in detail by Capt. Pat in the hints section.
To check out your boat and it's zincs, you will need a Silver/Silver-Chloride Reference Rlectrode and a good quality digital multimeter. You dangle the electrode over the side and read DC voltages.
When conducting this test, a vessel’s bonding system should have with a DC voltage between -900 mV and -1100 mV (relative to a silver/silver-chloride electrode) to properly protect underwater metals from galvanic corrosion. Readings less than -900 mV indicate the cathodic protection system (zincs) is weak and/or failing. Readings higher than -1150 mV indicate overprotection (over-zinked), a situation that could damage underwater steel, aluminum alloys and and wooden thru-hull backer plates.
Start taking readings with nothing connected to the boat (no shore power) and everything OFF. Voltage readings changing dramatically as you turn electrical circuits on or off indicate a problem with that particular circuit leaking out current into the water. You shold check each AC and DC circuit and appliance, one at a time.
Don't forget to check with your engines running too. An alternator that does not have an independent ground wire back to the battery can throw big stray currents.
If your boat comes out clean, then you either have bonding system troubles, or there are stray currents from a source other than your boat. Both are easy to test for.
The most common stray current path is from your shore power ground. Test your galvanic isolator to see if it is doing it's job. There will probably be a small voltage (less than 1.0 V) across it's terminals, this is normal. Take a curent reading however, and any current at all running through it means it's not working. If a stray current's voltage exceeds 1.5 volts then your galvanic isolator will be overpowered anyway - that is all it can stop.
I would also take a reading with everything as is, then disconnect the neighbor's shore power (with his permission of course) and take another. If the readings are different... bingo
Testing your bonding system has been documented in detail by Capt. Pat in the hints section.
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Two years ago I had a new slip neighbor. When I pulled my boat my zincs were still there but seriously eaten at and my bottom paint actually looked burnt. Normally my zincs show signs of deteriation but never like that.
I assume it was a leak from his boat and that the copper in the bottom paint was also reacting to his leak.
Two years ago I had a new slip neighbor. When I pulled my boat my zincs were still there but seriously eaten at and my bottom paint actually looked burnt. Normally my zincs show signs of deteriation but never like that.
I assume it was a leak from his boat and that the copper in the bottom paint was also reacting to his leak.
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Andre..........did the hammer thing on both shafts,Tony good hear from you hope all is well. Thanks-Bill
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Mike, I replaced all last spring all the same.I was kinda thinking that I may have a ground issue on that motor?
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All is well still working on the repower. Should be finished this winter. I really need to catch up with Frank F. Have not talked with him for a while.
Anyway, another way to find the leak on your boat is to disconnect your batteries and hook an Ohm meter up to the disconnected batter cables. Turn off every electric circuit you have. Make sure all the electronics and other electric appliances are turned off. Turn them on one by one and don't forget the bilge pumps. If the Ohm meter stays at 0 all is well. If you turn on a circuit or electronics and it gives you a reading, then that is the leak. Found a bad bilge pump that way a number of years ago. We were going through zincs every 3 weeks until we figured out how to find it.
All is well still working on the repower. Should be finished this winter. I really need to catch up with Frank F. Have not talked with him for a while.
Anyway, another way to find the leak on your boat is to disconnect your batteries and hook an Ohm meter up to the disconnected batter cables. Turn off every electric circuit you have. Make sure all the electronics and other electric appliances are turned off. Turn them on one by one and don't forget the bilge pumps. If the Ohm meter stays at 0 all is well. If you turn on a circuit or electronics and it gives you a reading, then that is the leak. Found a bad bilge pump that way a number of years ago. We were going through zincs every 3 weeks until we figured out how to find it.
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