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Buju · Post by **Buju** » Mar 8th, '14, 07:43

It aint no 31, but i sure did a double take. Never seen one before, anyone else?
http://keys.craigslist.org/bod/4360876299.html

CaptPatrick · Post by **CaptPatrick** » Mar 8th, '14, 08:04

Mark,

It's a 25 Bert... The B26 has heavier pilasters. The only thing B31 about it is that the owner took a B31 flybridge winshield and installed it around the bridge. Pretty sure it's a sterm drive setup.

I think the thing that confuses at first glance is that it's got a heavy load forward, and hiding the chine.

Buju · Post by **Buju** » Mar 8th, '14, 08:47

I dunno Pat, I was thinking its not Bertram whatsoever.
Notice the cabin windshield is flat, the center support is not positioned forward ala Bertram.
The hull is off too. The freeboard is to vertical… its just wrong.

I was thinking its one of the (not so) great imitators, like an Allmand, or a Seaport..

CaptPatrick · Post by **CaptPatrick** » Mar 8th, '14, 08:59

Yeah, the more I look at it the more I see wrong... Have you seen the boat in real life?

Buju · Post by **Buju** » Mar 8th, '14, 09:05

No, just on CL this am…
The thing that got me was the flybrige and the area where the aft pilasters contact it. Very close imitation.

Buju · Post by **Buju** » Mar 8th, '14, 09:12

More pics: http://www.gcyachts.com/listings.html?a=li

Its actually got a three pane cabin windshield, could tell from the profile pic.

CaptPatrick · Post by **CaptPatrick** » Mar 8th, '14, 09:41

•Engine/Fuel Type: Single Gas

That adds another wrinkle... What ever it is, it's a bastard, Bertram or otherwise.

Joseph Fikentscher · Post by **Joseph Fikentscher** » Mar 8th, '14, 10:00

Looks more like a Prowler hull with a Bertram top and bridge.

buzzk · Post by **buzzk** » Mar 8th, '14, 10:12

could it be a Buel or Scotty Craft?

mike ohlstein · Post by **mike ohlstein** » Mar 8th, '14, 10:15

Maybe one of those Baja Cruisers 31 knockoffs from down under?

MarkS · Post by **MarkS** » Mar 8th, '14, 10:18

Looks a little short on prow too for a 25. Somebodys trying to slip their sister the tongue.......

CaptPatrick · Post by **CaptPatrick** » Mar 8th, '14, 11:15

mike ohlstein wrote:Maybe one of those Baja Cruisers 31 knockoffs from down under?

Think you might be close, Mike. The Aussie builder under contract to Bertram is Caribbean, (now under the name of International Marine).

I haven't been able to dredge up any of the 31' models from the 60's though....

IRGuy · Post by **IRGuy** » Mar 8th, '14, 12:59

Lots of great engine access!

Kevin · Post by **Kevin** » Mar 8th, '14, 19:12

I saw that the other day while surfing C list. I threw up in my mouth a little. I don't "mean" to steal Mike's thunder by saying so.
It's like when someone sais a Phoenix 28 is the same thing as a B28. I believed it at first then I actually looked at one on the hard. Nice boat, but not a Bertram hull by any stretch.

lenco · Post by **lenco** » Mar 8th, '14, 19:21

its a vega
built first in florida then long island

Tommy · Post by **Tommy** » Mar 8th, '14, 21:02

John Almand?

Tony Meola · Post by **Tony Meola** » Mar 8th, '14, 23:52

The add says custom built. It says it is a Bertram Enterprise.

It does look like an old John Almond or a Sea Fox which I think later became Phoenix.

Pete Fallon · Post by **Pete Fallon** » Mar 9th, '14, 00:02

Guy's,
It looks like a 31 Hatteras hull with a John Alman windshield and house top, a 31 Bertram fly bridge and a windlass that could raise the Titanic. It is not a 31 Bertram that's for sure, It's a custom whatever. False advertising. Beware of Craig Lists ads.
Pete Fallon

Craig Mac · Post by **Craig Mac** » Mar 9th, '14, 08:21

There was a company called Breuil that built boats under the name Enterprise and it does look like one of there hulls.

Here is a link to a better example.

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1962- ... -101788032

Tony Meola · Post by **Tony Meola** » Mar 9th, '14, 20:25

Pete Fallon wrote:Guy's,
It looks like a 31 Hatteras hull with a John Alman windshield and house top, a 31 Bertram fly bridge and a windlass that could raise the Titanic. It is not a 31 Bertram that's for sure, It's a custom whatever. False advertising. Beware of Craig Lists ads.
Pete Fallon

Pete

It is also listed on Yacht World. You just can't trust even those who should know better.

Tony Meola · Post by **Tony Meola** » Mar 9th, '14, 22:44

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2 ... 64,4856615

I stumbled across this old article. If you look at the 3rd column right under the 3 stars, it says Motella ran an Enterprixe in the Miami to Nassau race in 64. I wonder if this manufacturer is related to this boat, since this is called a Bertram Enterprise.

Rawleigh · Post by **Rawleigh** » Mar 10th, '14, 08:23

I bet changing the plugs in that sucker is fun!

TailhookTom · Post by **TailhookTom** » Mar 10th, '14, 08:30

How about we just use some low explosives and put it out of its wannabe misery?

Tom

buzzk · Post by **buzzk** » Mar 10th, '14, 09:53

Brevil, that's the name I was thinking. I just couldn't quite remember the name.

Craig Mac · Post by **Craig Mac** » Mar 10th, '14, 11:03

The boats were built in Miami Florida by Jim Breuil. He was president of Frontier Oil and at one time owned the Buffalo Bills. He was an offshore racing enthusiast and frequently competed in the Midnight Runs to the Bahamas and the famed Miami to Nassau races. A few I might mention he won but routinely finished in the top 3 in a 36 Enterprise!

http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/boa/4301735201.html

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2 ... 32,6335765

CaptPatrick · Post by **CaptPatrick** » Mar 10th, '14, 12:27

Looks like Craig drove the final nail in the coffin.

Except for a couple of very minor details, these are the same boat. Listing on boat in the first image calls it a 28'...

bertram31.com

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