new project RIVA BERTAM 25

Gert van Leest · Post by **Gert van Leest** » Oct 28th, '13, 16:16

When I was on holyday I found an Italian beauty and took her home.....
Found her a new boyfreind and gutted her "Gert Style "
here some pics. !!

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Oct 28th, '13, 16:47

Style and grace, Gert, Style and grace. Need more pix of the interior. Seeing the varnished pieces I want to see where they go.
I'm as envious of your shop as I am your work. Zowie.

MarkS · Post by **MarkS** » Oct 28th, '13, 16:56

Very nice Gert!

CaptPatrick · Post by **CaptPatrick** » Oct 28th, '13, 18:52

As always, Gert, you're the consumate craftsmen and quite the magician to boot...

Tony Meola · Post by **Tony Meola** » Oct 28th, '13, 22:18

Gert

How about you move your shop to the good old USA.

That is just wonderful. Another great looking boat. You do amazing work.

Joseph Fikentscher · Post by **Joseph Fikentscher** » Oct 29th, '13, 07:56

Looks great!!

Rolled or sprayed?

Looking to roll my 25 in the spring.

CamB25 · Post by **CamB25** » Oct 29th, '13, 08:45

Looks Great! What's the color?

Sending my greetings from the Lost Sailor boat shed. It's like your shop, only different!

ianupton · Post by **ianupton** » Oct 29th, '13, 09:06

I saw the title, I saw that Gert posted it and knew it would be great.

Fantastic.

I hope to share some pictures in the next few months of my B20 Bahia project coming to a close.

Take care my friends!

Ian.

Rawleigh · Post by **Rawleigh** » Oct 29th, '13, 11:40

Wow Gert! You really are a glutton for punishment!! Nice job.

Charlie J · Post by **Charlie J** » Oct 29th, '13, 12:04

another fabulous job Gert

Bertramp · Post by **Bertramp** » Oct 29th, '13, 12:37

Gert....of course you realize that you are just setting yourself up to be kidnapped by me and sentenced to hard labor on my boat !!
beautiful job !!

TailhookTom · Post by **TailhookTom** » Oct 29th, '13, 12:55

Pretty Work

Gert van Leest · Post by **Gert van Leest** » Oct 29th, '13, 14:54

Thanks guys !!! :) dont forget it is my job !!

The colours are stark white and sky blue , this is the fist coat apllied with a foam roller , next and final coat will be brushed..

Two new crusader powerpaks are underway from your side , and the teak varnished , are the cabinets port and sb on the inside.

I will keep you guys posted !!

Gert

JP Dalik · Post by **JP Dalik** » Oct 29th, '13, 15:23

You sir are deeply afflicted with the boating curse.

Pretty work as always, keep us posted

Craig Mac · Post by **Craig Mac** » Oct 29th, '13, 15:42

I always wondered if the quality of Riva is better or worse than Bertram--is there any difference?

Always thought Bertram should have used stainless window frames like Riva.

jackryan · Post by **jackryan** » Oct 29th, '13, 16:06

Gert,

Wow, what a beautiful little boat, and an amazing gut job. Does anybody know the history of the 25-26 Riva's. Did Bertram contract Riva to build these boats? Is it the same hull as the 25 Bertram? Although I love the 25 and 26 Bertrams, I really like the way the front windshield is curved on the Riva. It makes this boat look much more like a little 31 Bertram than the square front windshields on the smaller Bertrams.

Like everything else you do with boats, I'm sure this is going to come out first class. Thanks for the pictures. Please post lots of pictures of the finished product.

JR

Craig Mac · Post by **Craig Mac** » Oct 29th, '13, 17:08

Bertram licensed Riva to build 20 foot Bahia Mars and 25 foot Flybridge boats----the 20 looked the same as USA versions---25 were modified---I think all the 25's were v-drives.

Craig Mac · Post by **Craig Mac** » Oct 29th, '13, 17:14

Just copied this off the RIVA website.

The first two Riva models in composite material were born: the day cruiser Bahia Mar 20’ and the cabin cruiser Sport Fisherman 25’. The new material was first accurately studied by purchasing the hull from the Bertram boatyard. The hull was subsequently redesigned and both models were then finished with wood details, in line with Riva's tradition.

SteveM · Post by **SteveM** » Oct 29th, '13, 18:37

John Swick · Post by **John Swick** » Oct 30th, '13, 06:21

Beautiful work Gert.
Can you run us through your painting process and what products you used ?
Thanks in advance.
John

John F. · Post by **John F.** » Oct 30th, '13, 18:05

Just beautiful. Nicely done.

Tony Meola · Post by **Tony Meola** » Oct 30th, '13, 23:00

John S wrote:Beautiful work Gert.
Can you run us through your painting process and what products you used ?
Thanks in advance.
John

John

From one of Gert's posts

"And of course Dick , it has been brushed , but Awlgrip will also go nice applied with a fine foam roller , but very important for this paint is use 10-15 % reducer an apply it below 75 Fahrenheit and the moisture in the air must be below 70 %. "

MarkD · Post by **MarkD** » Oct 31st, '13, 08:52

Gert:

What are you putting in for engines? 5.7 Crusaders? Where did you purchase them over here?

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Oct 31st, '13, 09:47

Gert-
I ran into one of Carlo Riva's old captains a couple of seasons back http://bertram31.com/newbb/viewtopic.ph ... iva#p71328
I was told that Riva's B31 had "Riva V-8s" which were raw water cooled Crusader 454s with intake and exhaust manifolds of Riva's spec. I was also told that the boat was "gone over" at Riva and they replaced all of the hinges, latches, etc. with the stuff Riva sourced.
Good work and good luck!
S

Rocky · Post by **Rocky** » Oct 31st, '13, 21:38

What was that flash of lightning - oh that was just Gert starting and finishing another awesome boat redo! Holy smokes Gert do you ever get things done when you set your mind to it!
What a job your doing please keep the pics coming, Wow is right.

Todd Pearce · Post by **Todd Pearce** » Nov 1st, '13, 03:42

Gert, you present us all our ineptitude on a plate ,your workmanship is truly that of a master craftsman, to say I`m jealous would be a massive understatement, I hope that somewhere in your shop there is someone leaning your skills, so your tradition is carried forward, your photos are an inspiration to the rest of us ,please keep them coming, I love seeing these projects come together,it helps keep me on track with mine

Morning Wood · Post by **Morning Wood** » Nov 3rd, '13, 16:32

What materials are Riva manifolds made of? Their profile gives a little more room between the engines. I was told that it was some alloy and not cast.

Craig Mac · Post by **Craig Mac** » Nov 4th, '13, 16:58

Few pics of another restored boat---

http://bluyachting.com/index.php?v=gall ... &seite=160" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ianupton · Post by **ianupton** » Nov 4th, '13, 21:45

I do not understand the seemingly odd bottom paint.

Seems that it abruptly stops about 3/4 the length of the hull. It was in Gert's pictures as well as these. Definately not painted with the water line.

Is there some requirement for multi-colored hull bottom in case of capsize?

Curious...

Ian.

Tommy · Post by **Tommy** » Nov 4th, '13, 22:03

Good eye, Ian; it appears that the painted area is consistent with the wetted area when the B-25 would be at plane. Maybe a drag-reducing coating? How 'bout it, Gert?!?

Gert van Leest · Post by **Gert van Leest** » Nov 5th, '13, 16:15

MarkD wrote:Gert:

What are you putting in for engines? 5.7 Crusaders? Where did you purchase them over here?

I bought them at our local Riva / Crusader dealer
http://www.boesch-riva.eu/index.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Gert van Leest · Post by **Gert van Leest** » Nov 5th, '13, 16:18

Stephan wrote:Gert-
I ran into one of Carlo Riva's old captains a couple of seasons back http://bertram31.com/newbb/viewtopic.ph ... iva#p71328
I was told that Riva's B31 had "Riva V-8s" which were raw water cooled Crusader 454s with intake and exhaust manifolds of Riva's spec. I was also told that the boat was "gone over" at Riva and they replaced all of the hinges, latches, etc. with the stuff Riva sourced.
Good work and good luck!
S

al I know he had a 36 , i posted that last week...

Gert

Gert van Leest · Post by **Gert van Leest** » Nov 5th, '13, 16:20

Craig Mac wrote:I always wondered if the quality of Riva is better or worse than Bertram--is there any difference?

Always thought Bertram should have used stainless window frames like Riva.

Bertram is better build , more and thicker fiberglass !!

Gert van Leest · Post by **Gert van Leest** » Nov 5th, '13, 16:30

jackryan wrote:Gert,

Wow, what a beautiful little boat, and an amazing gut job. Does anybody know the history of the 25-26 Riva's. Did Bertram contract Riva to build these boats? Is it the same hull as the 25 Bertram? Although I love the 25 and 26 Bertrams, I really like the way the front windshield is curved on the Riva. It makes this boat look much more like a little 31 Bertram than the square front windshields on the smaller Bertrams.

Like everything else you do with boats, I'm sure this is going to come out first class. Thanks for the pictures. Please post lots of pictures of the finished product.

JR

Carlo Riva spend a lot of time at the Criss Craft yard and they did some things together , he went over to Dick Bertram to have a look how fiberglass boats were build ..
Bertram was tired of the (very nice) expensive curved front windows and made the 25 with straight angled ones ... Riva changed it back ( to our curved ones ).
He also changed the fly bridge window from positive to negative , to create a better wind deflector .... this was also harder to make..

Gert van Leest · Post by **Gert van Leest** » Nov 5th, '13, 16:33

John S wrote:Beautiful work Gert.
Can you run us through your painting process and what products you used ?
Thanks in advance.
John

Sanded it grid 240 , then epoxy primer it to get rid of all the silicone and have a good base layer, after that sanded it 360 for the first coat of Awl grip

Gert van Leest · Post by **Gert van Leest** » Nov 5th, '13, 16:35

Morning Wood wrote:What materials are Riva manifolds made of? Their profile gives a little more room between the engines. I was told that it was some alloy and not cast.

They are made of copper.......

Gert van Leest · Post by **Gert van Leest** » Nov 5th, '13, 16:40

Tommy wrote:Good eye, Ian; it appears that the painted area is consistent with the wetted area when the B-25 would be at plane. Maybe a drag-reducing coating? How 'bout it, Gert?!?

Guys , this a tipical Riva bottom paint job , even the wooden ones have this , in the old days they used white gloss paint instead of antifouling.
http://mbbw.com/WIP/Riva%201960.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Gert van Leest · Post by **Gert van Leest** » Nov 5th, '13, 17:04

Gert van Leest wrote: al I know he had a 36 , i posted that last week...

Gert

sorry 38

Navatech · Post by **Navatech** » Nov 5th, '13, 19:29

Gert van Leest wrote: They are made of copper.......

I would have thought that Copper would be too susceptible to corrosion… You're sure it's not Cupronickel or Monel?!...

ianupton · Post by **ianupton** » Nov 6th, '13, 00:35

I never knew about the white forward and red aft bottom paint for Riva's.

Learn something new everyday.

Ian.

SteveM · Post by **SteveM** » Sep 23rd, '18, 17:32

Gert,
Any photos of the finished interior?
Would love to see it.

Tony Meola · Post by **Tony Meola** » Sep 23rd, '18, 22:51

Steve

Not sure if Gert monitors the board. It has been a while since he has been on. He does respond to a PM.

Gert van Leest · Post by **Gert van Leest** » Sep 24th, '18, 04:01

Hi Guys , it has been a while , kind of busy,,.....steven here the link
http://bertram31.com/newbb/viewtopic.ph ... ert#p98876

PeterPalmieri · Post by **PeterPalmieri** » Sep 24th, '18, 08:23

Gert van Leest wrote:Hi Guys , it has been a while , kind of busy,,.....steven here the link
http://bertram31.com/newbb/viewtopic.ph ... ert#p98876

WOW that's the way it's done

SteveM · Post by **SteveM** » Sep 24th, '18, 12:37

Excellent work Gert! Beautiful.

Tony Meola · Post by **Tony Meola** » Sep 24th, '18, 21:04

Gert is a true craftsman.

Gert good to see you on here again.