Anyone know this boat or owner? Bertram 31 Express rammed.

captbone · Post by **captbone** » Mar 23rd, '12, 09:24

http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-for ... -john.html

randall · Post by **randall** » Mar 23rd, '12, 09:36

if it was a local boat that hit them i don't see how they can avoid detection.....thats gonna leave a mark.

unfortunate to say the least.

captbone · Post by **captbone** » Mar 23rd, '12, 09:43

I am glad no one was hurt. The 31 looks like someone put a lot of time and effort into making it perfect. The water damage and starboard side damage will most likely send it to boat heaven.

TailhookTom · Post by **TailhookTom** » Mar 23rd, '12, 10:59

I'm pretty certain even with all the king's horses and all the king's men, even Captain Patrick can't put that Bertram back together again.

Well, actually, I'm certain he could -- but there better be some DEEP pockets because that is going to be some serious amount of hours and Captain Patrick's level of talent to put that back together again!

Dug · Post by **Dug** » Mar 23rd, '12, 11:40

That truly sucks...

In Memory Walter K · Post by **In Memory Walter K** » Mar 23rd, '12, 12:02

What sucks more is he backed off and kept going.

CaptPatrick · Post by **CaptPatrick** » Mar 23rd, '12, 12:55

That might be Frank Griffin's B31...

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mar 23rd, '12, 14:35

Believe this is a boat I posted about after being on St. John several years ago. The owner is a British Virgin Islander and runs a taxi/fishing charter with several B31's out of St. John. Pictured is Ivy Rose, his best boat with another of his boats in the background. Spent some time with him talking about our mutual passion and his collection and took a ride on Ivy Rose. At that time he had only the two. One had Cummins and the other Yannies. His renovation work was most impressive although he had not solicited help from the Sandbox. I told him then to jump in. Hope he is lurking and receives the condolences and heart-felt grief of the Faithful over his loss. If you are lurking let us know and accept any help we may be able to give.

captbone · Post by **captbone** » Mar 23rd, '12, 15:59

The paint color layout is almost identical. It does seems like the same owner.

Tony Meola · Post by **Tony Meola** » Mar 23rd, '12, 21:25

MIke

I don't think it is the same boat. The one that sunk is a hard top express.

Brewster Minton · Post by **Brewster Minton** » Mar 23rd, '12, 21:46

the people that hit them should be convicted of four counts of attempted murder if you ask me.

Morning Wood · Post by **Morning Wood** » Mar 24th, '12, 08:02

Hopefully the Police can get enough information to prosecute. At night is going to make it tough to identify anything. The cowards certainly will do what's necessary to avoid detection. Hopefully there is a tidy discreet way to get justice. A job for Dexter.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mar 25th, '12, 11:17

Tony,
Sorry lack of communications skills in English. Didn't mean to say that the boat pictured was the one sunk. He didn't own the one sunk at the time I took the pics.

gplume · Post by **gplume** » Mar 25th, '12, 19:59

Mikey-

Just returned from a vacation in Tortola, and saw the B31 in your picture in Soupers Hole. Went to get my camera, and he was gone by the time I got back.

I can testify that there many yahoos on the water down there. Got a first hand view of it spending a Sunday afternoon at Long Beach on Joost Van Dyke. Much alcohol added to the mix....with lots of high powered craft......and I thought RI was bad?

Real shame to see a fine craft wasted.....hopefully those on board do not have any permanent injuries.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mar 26th, '12, 10:38

Giff,
Where on Tortola were you? My second home so to speak is Tortola. I have a real estate development company there and have been going since the sixties. Belmont Estates Limited. It's on the North shore of West End. When you were at Sopers you could look almost straight up and see the premiere house in Belmont at the top of the mountain.

Hueso · Post by **Hueso** » Mar 26th, '12, 16:36

This is the B31 that got rammed:

In Memory Walter K · Post by **In Memory Walter K** » Mar 26th, '12, 18:11

I think I'll get sick! WHAT a shame!

In Memory of Vicroy · Post by **In Memory of Vicroy** » Mar 26th, '12, 18:31

Shoot, bet that boat can be repaired. Look what Marshall did with the Susie's Pissed after Katrina. All it takes is time, patience, & money.

UV

bob lico · Post by **bob lico** » Mar 26th, '12, 19:02

There are some very strong international marine laws dating back to the titanic disaster when the ship California sail on by ignoring the titanic situation. They put that captain in leg irons and put him away for a long time.the first thing is to put that bastard in jail and take all his worldly possessions not for the accident but for leaving people in the water.what the hell it is a island I am sure that boat cannot be that hard to find.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mar 26th, '12, 19:16

Bob,
It's not that it's hard to find, but you need those willing to look.
Island time and 'give a shit!'
I will be surprised.

gplume · Post by **gplume** » Mar 26th, '12, 21:08

Mickey-
Stayed at the Heritage Inn. View was fantastic. Tortola is like heaven on earth to me. Loved it there. Good atmosphere, good surf in front on Bomba's almost everyday I was there, good boating,' nice people, a great place. So is your company handling the house at the end of Soupers hole......what a spot. Plan to go back.....after my wallet recovers..sometime in the future.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mar 27th, '12, 11:21

Giff,
That is Steele Point. Sad to say, No, not ours. If it were ours we would probably hold on to it.
Don't know the Heritage, where is it?

gplume · Post by **gplume** » Mar 28th, '12, 22:09

Mikey-
Halfway between carrot bay and cane garden bay...almost at the top of windy hill. Great spot.

Gifford
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Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mar 29th, '12, 11:22

Giff,
Ah, now I got it. Stayed at Quito's Ole World Inn in Cane Garden once. It was like a sixties Holiday Inn. Clean and neat and Quito is a hoot. He started there as a musician eons ago and bought the bar and then the restaurant and finally the hotel. Great guy. We had an ocean front room on the third floor and it had a fabulous sunset view from the balcony and Quito's music every night. Missed this year and am regretting it already.

captbone · Post by **captbone** » Mar 30th, '12, 10:38

The update from THT

So here is the update, the other boat was the boat that everyone suspected. They are claiming they left the scene to take an injured passenger to the hospital. They did apparently notify the coast guard shortly after the incident. Both parties are now claiming that neither boat had their lights on. The Bertram is technically a recreational boat although it is owned by a commercial ferry operator and was being run by one of their captains. The other boat is a charter boat they had paying passengers on board and were returning form St Martin. The whole right away thing will be tough to determine. The accident happened just off shore of St John in an area with boat traffic from multiple directions. I suspect when it's all said and done the Coast Guard will blame both operators. As for why they raised the boat, it has nearly new motors in it that they planned to try to save. It also had about fifty gallons of diesel fuel that had to be dealt with and I am sure it will be needed for the investigation. Here is a link to the local newspaper article written yesterday.

http://stthomassource.com/content/news/ ... -collision

Jamie MacKenzie · Post by **Jamie MacKenzie** » Mar 30th, '12, 12:16

Yikes. That boat looks way too much like mine! Gives me the willies...

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