New Member - - - 1963 38ft Bertram #11 of 13
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New Member - - - 1963 38ft Bertram #11 of 13
Let me introduce myself
I am a Canadian but we spend quite a few months a year in the Outer Banks of North Carolina . . . we have a slip at Pirates Cove Marina there.
We just purchased the Bertram and should be picking it up on the first week of November
The Bert has been updated in the last five years both inside and outside as well as engines, mechanicals etc.
I look forward to learning here
Anyone have old pictures of these 38s . . . would love to see what they looked like before all the restoration work was done
Many thanks
Auguste
I am a Canadian but we spend quite a few months a year in the Outer Banks of North Carolina . . . we have a slip at Pirates Cove Marina there.
We just purchased the Bertram and should be picking it up on the first week of November
The Bert has been updated in the last five years both inside and outside as well as engines, mechanicals etc.
I look forward to learning here
Anyone have old pictures of these 38s . . . would love to see what they looked like before all the restoration work was done
Many thanks
Auguste
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1963 38111 (38ft hull #11 of 13)
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Congrats on the new to you Bertram..an old timer has a 38 at the same marina as my dads 37 Bertram...38 is a tank...heavy and well built what do you have for power? Like most of the old Bertrams overbuilt..bh
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I am not an very knowledgeable about the evolution of Bertram hulls but Ed Riverio (previous Bertram owner) and CB Hawes (current Bertram owner) out of NJ have been helping me along.
The 38 (1963 version) is essentially a 31 hull but 7 ft longer and with a 14 ft 6 in wide beam . . . only 13 were built by Bertram
I am told that the 38s produced years after mine were quite different hulls
You are correct that it is not a fast boat . . . it was repowered with Cat 3208s at 375 hp each and cruises comfortably and economically at 20 mph at about 1 for 1 with a top speed in the 27 to 29 mph range depending on sea conditions etc.
I was surprised during the sea trials in that it planed in the 12 to13 mph range
Randall, yup, I was the 'posting whore' on THT but post there very little now
Once I figure out how to post pictures I will put a few up for your viewing
Thanks for the warm welcomes everyone
The 38 (1963 version) is essentially a 31 hull but 7 ft longer and with a 14 ft 6 in wide beam . . . only 13 were built by Bertram
I am told that the 38s produced years after mine were quite different hulls
You are correct that it is not a fast boat . . . it was repowered with Cat 3208s at 375 hp each and cruises comfortably and economically at 20 mph at about 1 for 1 with a top speed in the 27 to 29 mph range depending on sea conditions etc.
I was surprised during the sea trials in that it planed in the 12 to13 mph range
Randall, yup, I was the 'posting whore' on THT but post there very little now
Once I figure out how to post pictures I will put a few up for your viewing
Thanks for the warm welcomes everyone
1963 38111 (38ft hull #11 of 13)
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Thanks. I have (officially) been looking (with money in bank) for a boat that fits both my fishing needs and within my budget for about a year and a half. Only waiting for the engine survey to be completed by a Cat specialist . . . but they run like a charm (I am an old diesel mechanic). The horror stories I could tell about the many boats I inspected and the brokers who I ran into, but that is for another day.
I hope to have her in the Outer Banks the first week of November
JP Dalik
You are exactly correct . . . Spray Daze is the boat. She is beautifully laid out for fishing . . . only the electronics need a bit of freshinging up . . . the current owner and his dad are a class act and they took great care of the boat . . . lots of great upgrades to make it a true sport fisher
Thanks. I have (officially) been looking (with money in bank) for a boat that fits both my fishing needs and within my budget for about a year and a half. Only waiting for the engine survey to be completed by a Cat specialist . . . but they run like a charm (I am an old diesel mechanic). The horror stories I could tell about the many boats I inspected and the brokers who I ran into, but that is for another day.
I hope to have her in the Outer Banks the first week of November
JP Dalik
You are exactly correct . . . Spray Daze is the boat. She is beautifully laid out for fishing . . . only the electronics need a bit of freshinging up . . . the current owner and his dad are a class act and they took great care of the boat . . . lots of great upgrades to make it a true sport fisher
1963 38111 (38ft hull #11 of 13)
Congrats on the new boat. Here's the add for Spray Daze:
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/ ... 13104&url=
Nice looking boat. Good luck with her.
JR
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/ ... 13104&url=
Nice looking boat. Good luck with her.
JR
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Capt Frank,
Upon further review, it appears that the 1970-75 Bertram 38 sportfishermen were built on the same hull as the 1963 that Auguste posted. He said his was 38' and a beam of 14'6". I pulled the specs on the 1970-75 38s, and it shows 37'8" with a beam of 14'5". Given the beams of each boat, they would both be considered "wide body" Berts compared to the later Bertram 38s (1983 B-38, 13'3" beam).
Tommy
Upon further review, it appears that the 1970-75 Bertram 38 sportfishermen were built on the same hull as the 1963 that Auguste posted. He said his was 38' and a beam of 14'6". I pulled the specs on the 1970-75 38s, and it shows 37'8" with a beam of 14'5". Given the beams of each boat, they would both be considered "wide body" Berts compared to the later Bertram 38s (1983 B-38, 13'3" beam).
Tommy
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Really cool and rare boat, congrats. How's she ride?
If any of the faithful are interested, I know of another of these early B38's which is for sale down my way... Same boat, original looking, not as sharp as Spray Daze though...
She's been tied up in Manatee Bay Marina for a few years, which is the marina/boatyard about halfway down the 18mile stretch for those in the area.
Recently had a for sale posted on her with a lauderdale phone#. I'll get the # if anyone's interested...
If any of the faithful are interested, I know of another of these early B38's which is for sale down my way... Same boat, original looking, not as sharp as Spray Daze though...
She's been tied up in Manatee Bay Marina for a few years, which is the marina/boatyard about halfway down the 18mile stretch for those in the area.
Recently had a for sale posted on her with a lauderdale phone#. I'll get the # if anyone's interested...
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Auguste:
Have you heard of this B38 ?
http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/bertr ... rtram.html
FYI there's one here too in Nassau,Bahamas that is pretty much a stock boat still and has been in charter fishing forever..........
Have you heard of this B38 ?
http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/bertr ... rtram.html
FYI there's one here too in Nassau,Bahamas that is pretty much a stock boat still and has been in charter fishing forever..........
Preston Burrows
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BERF1398M76J-285
1976 B28 FBC
BERF1398M76J-285
Took possession of the boat last Thursday and provisioned it Friday. Plan was to get to OBX Sunday evening.
Left Saturday morning and didn't get 2 miles when we wrapped a rope around the prop. Had to go back and get the boat pulled. I cut the rope, 3/4 poly. Luckly no damage. By noon we were back on the water.
Plan was to get to Ocean City Saturday night. We ran into a storm (not forecasted Saturday morning) four hours from Cape May. Remember we are a 20 kt cruise.
We encounter true 6 footers spaced at 3.2 seconds (info off of the weather buoys today). The boat handled the weather well, we slowed to 12 kts. . . we really got tossed but it never slammed hard . . . busted my camera but other than that no damage
We travelled a couple of hours Sunday (late start as fuel dock not open till late morning) and decided we would not be able to reach Oregon Inlet before dark, something I didn't want to do.
Stopped at Ocean City and decided to leave the boat at the marina. We will go back down after the forecasted storm is over later this week. and finish the trip to OBX NC.
Left Saturday morning and didn't get 2 miles when we wrapped a rope around the prop. Had to go back and get the boat pulled. I cut the rope, 3/4 poly. Luckly no damage. By noon we were back on the water.
Plan was to get to Ocean City Saturday night. We ran into a storm (not forecasted Saturday morning) four hours from Cape May. Remember we are a 20 kt cruise.
We encounter true 6 footers spaced at 3.2 seconds (info off of the weather buoys today). The boat handled the weather well, we slowed to 12 kts. . . we really got tossed but it never slammed hard . . . busted my camera but other than that no damage
We travelled a couple of hours Sunday (late start as fuel dock not open till late morning) and decided we would not be able to reach Oregon Inlet before dark, something I didn't want to do.
Stopped at Ocean City and decided to leave the boat at the marina. We will go back down after the forecasted storm is over later this week. and finish the trip to OBX NC.
1963 38111 (38ft hull #11 of 13)
Thanks for the link.Preston Burrows wrote:Auguste:
Have you heard of this B38 ?
http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/bertr ... rtram.html
FYI there's one here too in Nassau,Bahamas that is pretty much a stock boat still and has been in charter fishing forever..........
Will do a search on the one in the Bahama's
1963 38111 (38ft hull #11 of 13)
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