Photos from Carl @ Elite

jspiezio · Post by **jspiezio** » Oct 8th, '08, 10:49

Posting a few shots that Carl sent to my dad yesterday.

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CaptPatrick · Post by **CaptPatrick** » Oct 8th, '08, 11:19

Real pretty work!

Br,

Patrick

jspiezio · Post by **jspiezio** » Oct 8th, '08, 11:40

Thank Capt- I need your address for a donation Capt, is it on the board somewhere?

Need to get photos of the glass front bait well on the transom

CaptPatrick · Post by **CaptPatrick** » Oct 8th, '08, 12:01

Right under my ugly mug... Thanks!

DRIFTER31 · Post by **DRIFTER31** » Oct 8th, '08, 13:09

First class rigging........and what a sweet boat. The engines fit perfectly. Thats a boat to grow old with for sure. One word of caution. I know first hand that Yanmar castings exposed to saltwater[ex.risers] deteriorate very quickly[in my case 3yrs] I would put a time limit on their lifespan and replace them no matter what for insurance. I really believe the Japs use inferior or maybe softer iron than we have here in USA but they are good and last like a Toyota.

jspiezio · Post by **jspiezio** » Oct 8th, '08, 13:09

Boy, do I feel stupid....

Charlie J · Post by **Charlie J** » Oct 8th, '08, 13:23

very nice set up

jspiezio · Post by **jspiezio** » Oct 8th, '08, 14:05

DRIFTER31 wrote:First class rigging........and what a sweet boat. The engines fit perfectly. Thats a boat to grow old with for sure.

that's the idea, climbing up and down the bridge is rough on Dad's knees. This should do the trick, and look great at the same time.

One word of caution. I know first hand that Yanmar castings exposed to saltwater[ex.risers] deteriorate very quickly[in my case 3yrs] I would put a time limit on their lifespan and replace them no matter what for insurance. I really believe the Japs use inferior or maybe softer iron than we have here in USA but they are good and last like a Toyota.

Thanks for that caution, I am going to try to find out why. I wonder if in the future I should consider stripping and then cad and/or nickel plating the exteriors of pieces like that prior to installing them (after re-painting of course).

Capt Pat, any comments on that?

Rawleigh · Post by **Rawleigh** » Oct 8th, '08, 14:21

What a nice clean layout! Looks great!

Tommy · Post by **Tommy** » Oct 8th, '08, 14:43

J,

I love the way Carl elevated the deck to provide a contiuous platform over the engines. Thanks for sharing the pictures, and please continue to keep us posted.

Bob H. · Post by **Bob H.** » Oct 8th, '08, 16:35

J, Top notch work...Carl sure knows how to get it right.

CaptPatrick · Post by **CaptPatrick** » Oct 8th, '08, 16:42

One thing I'm having trouble comprending...

The main engine hatch is going to be hinged & I assume actuated with hydraulic pistons. Yet with the port side seating & tackle center, both sitting on the hatch & closely fitted. The seating area is captured between the forward bulkhead, side panel, & tackle center. Are you going to have to remove both items in order to raise the main hatch?

Br,

Patrick

JP Dalik · Post by **JP Dalik** » Oct 8th, '08, 18:44

Love it ...................... right up to the seating layout.

Tony Meola · Post by **Tony Meola** » Oct 8th, '08, 20:37

This one is going to be a head turner. Really nice. Lots of luck.

JohnCranston · Post by **JohnCranston** » Oct 8th, '08, 22:48

J,
I can't wait till Pam will have the time to describe the pics to me. Please post pics on the bow live well!!
Thanks

Carl · Post by **Carl** » Oct 9th, '08, 06:52

Job looks top notch! Can't wait till you post the sea trial numbers.

Maybe Carl has devised a slick rail system to slide the seating, live wells? out so you have full access to the motors. With the main hatch open, can you get to the outboard side of the motors or do you need to remove that flanged area as well. I have this thing about accessing all areas of the engines quickly. Guess it has to do with owning older boats and having to work on them in less then ideal situations.

When is the tentative splash date?

Carl

CaptPatrick · Post by **CaptPatrick** » Oct 9th, '08, 07:25

jspiezio wrote: I wonder if in the future I should consider stripping and then cad and/or nickel plating the exteriors of pieces like that...

Capt Pat, any comments on that?

What Troy is referring to is the exhaust mixing elbow from the turbos. Rather than being made of iron, they are a special bronze/aluminum alloy that is supposed to be stronger & less corrosive than iron.

On any mixing elbow the corrosion damage happens inside where you can't see it. All marine mixing elbows have a limited life expectancy, regardless of the material they're made of. External paint is not necessary on the Yanmar elbows.

Br,

Patrick

mike ohlstein · Post by **mike ohlstein** » Oct 9th, '08, 07:53

If they offer a kit to relocate the starboard oil dipstick to the inboard side of the engine, you might want to install it. Otherwise you'll never check the oil on that side.

Dug · Post by **Dug** » Oct 9th, '08, 08:02

Boat looks beautiful. Damn!

jspiezio · Post by **jspiezio** » Oct 9th, '08, 14:40

Thanks to all of you for the comments and the ideas, I appreciate them.

Captain Pat- the forward seat is on a custom built heavy duty stainless track that locks in place but rolls to midships. The hatch then lifts with two hydraulic cyclinders, and the aft sectional and prepstation go with it.

Mike O- that is an excellent point about the starboard engine. The only way to check oil now is to raise the deck. So, the dipstick must run to amidships or another access hatch in hte deck. I will e-mail Carl, I plan on being there in two weeks so we can discuss these things.

Sim- Splash date has come and gone 18 months ago! He is now looking at January/February.

John C- The bait well is built in the transom, nice glass face with internal lighting in several colors. If you're ever in NY or Florida when she is there we would love to have you out on her.

She needs quite a bit of work still- the settee seating needs backing and upholstery, seating for command station, Carl is having a custom windshield built, then he has designed a special tower that is being fabbed, it'll have a control station up there as well.

Charlie J · Post by **Charlie J** » Oct 9th, '08, 17:51

i agree you cant beat the bahia mars for fishing alone, one level

Carl · Post by **Carl** » Oct 9th, '08, 18:04

If ya gotta have seating in that area, that is the way to do it. Nice, real nice. I have often thought about having my motor boxs roll out on my Express. I'd love to gain quick full access without wrenching the back. But but then I just decided to just have another beer.

18 months...your dad has to be a patient man.

Good luck.

Carl

jspiezio · Post by **jspiezio** » Oct 9th, '08, 18:12

sim wrote:If ya gotta have seating in that area, that is the way to do it. Nice, real nice. I have often thought about having my motor boxs roll out on my Express. I'd love to gain quick full access without wrenching the back. But but then I just decided to just have another beer.

18 months...your dad has to be a patient man.

Good luck.

Carl

Definitely not, but you have to know what you can control and what you cant.

This boat will be a little more grandkid/wife/daughter-in-law friendly with that seating. Otherwise, there would be nothing there.

Tony Meola · Post by **Tony Meola** » Oct 9th, '08, 21:11

Hey, isn't that Mako hanging from a Blackfin. Well at least your father has now come to realization and owns as UV would say the Best Boat ever built.

jspiezio · Post by **jspiezio** » Oct 9th, '08, 22:15

Tony Meola wrote:Hey, isn't that Mako hanging from a Blackfin. Well at least your father has now come to realization and owns as UV would say the Best Boat ever built.

Yes Tony, a Blackfin, heresy! (actually I love that boat)
But this is not his first 31, he's had a 31 FBSF and a 31 FBC, not to mention a 25 fb, a 25 hardtop, a 38 and a 46. But he always wanted a 31 Bahia Mar, so when he saw this hull sitting in a parking lot, falling apart, he knew he had to save it.

Craig Mac · Post by **Craig Mac** » Oct 10th, '08, 08:33

where will the boat be kept when finished?

jspiezio · Post by **jspiezio** » Oct 10th, '08, 09:40

Part time NY Part-time in Florida

Tony Meola · Post by **Tony Meola** » Oct 10th, '08, 21:26

J

I know some of the crew will get upset, but the older Blackfins were great boats.

Carl · Post by **Carl** » Oct 11th, '08, 08:38

The Blackfins are fantastic boats, nobody should argue that. The important point is that the Bertrams are better ;)
Carl

Harv · Post by **Harv** » Oct 12th, '08, 20:39

jspiezio wrote:Part time NY Part-time in Florida

What part of Long Island?
I want my yard guy to check it out while mine is out for repower and "stuff". I always liked the idea of more useable deck space at the helm. That's a smart looking set up.

jspiezio · Post by **jspiezio** » Oct 12th, '08, 22:05

Harv-

Harv · Post by **Harv** » Oct 14th, '08, 11:04

Let me know when the boat is there.
We are just down the road in Freeport.

JohnCranston · Post by **JohnCranston** » Oct 15th, '08, 20:09

J,
My wife and friend , Tom, really like what you have done in the helm area! It inspires us to keep going with our project. We can't wait till you get your windshield and tower figured out. I talked with Carl a couple of years ago and he told me about a bahia mar that had a raised helm area that he was working on. Is that yours? I'd like to call you about your Yanmar gearing and props. Well done, my friend.
John and crew.`

jspiezio · Post by **jspiezio** » Oct 15th, '08, 21:03

JohnCranston wrote:J,
My wife and friend , Tom, really like what you have done in the helm area! It inspires us to keep going with our project. We can't wait till you get your windshield and tower figured out. I talked with Carl a couple of years ago and he told me about a bahia mar that had a raised helm area that he was working on. Is that yours? I'd like to call you about your Yanmar gearing and props. Well done, my friend.
John and crew.`

Yes, John, it is. I have to say I deserve no credit, Carl deserves it all, with my dad getting the assist.

Thanks a lot for the compliments, I'll pass them on to the guys who have earned them. I'll be on the road to till late next week, but would love to talk after that. I'll PM you my cell phone #

Harv · Post by **Harv** » Oct 16th, '08, 19:35

jspiezio wrote:I'll PM you my cell phone #

I'd appreciate the same.
I'd like to ask a few questions as well.
Thanks

jspiezio · Post by **jspiezio** » May 17th, '09, 20:25

Couple more shots sent yesterday from Jen at Elite.

http://picasaweb.google.com/knotheadWen ... 5028012098

Tony Meola · Post by **Tony Meola** » May 17th, '09, 20:45

Really, really nice. Better than new, that is the best part.

Carl · Post by **Carl** » May 18th, '09, 07:28

Nice and clean!
Tower looks great, I like the setback on th eupper helm.
Bet you guys can't wait to take her out and run her paces.

I noticed the intake clamshells are gone and only two lil/holes remain, is that enough air for those motors or has Carl tricked that out as well?

Can't wait to hear the numbers, when is the big day?

Carl

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