B25 Finally made it home
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B25 Finally made it home
Its been 2.5 Months since I spoke to the broker and got this rolling. I drove Monday/Tuesday to Ohio to pick up the trailer, then the boat. I spent Tuesday afternoon removing loose items and dismantling anything that could get damaged in transport. Drove back today from OH to NC with wide load permits from 3 states and she is finally home.
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That's a heck of a boat, and a heck of a driveway too. Congrats! It was a long journey but well worth it. ENJOY!
Hope to see you on the board as you move into the next phase of ownership, projects and adventures.
Hope to see you on the board as you move into the next phase of ownership, projects and adventures.
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Welcome home!
Looks great!
Best of luck and much enjoyment!
Looks great!
Best of luck and much enjoyment!
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Re: B25 Finally made it home
She looks to me to sit stern low. There is almost no fuel in the tanks. Is that a factor possibly?
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That's great! How did she tow on that new trailer?
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The trailer is very well built. It poured down rain pretty much my entire drive through Ohio and West Virginia. So I was going pretty slowly all things considered. But I’m super happy with the trailer
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Congrats, that’s a great looking boat!
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Here are my initial questions/comments for the group. Sorry to bombard the forum:
1. The previous owner drilled holes in the deck near the overboard deck drains. And, I assume from the bertram placard, those drains are supposed to be plugged while the boat is docked and unattended. This combined with how low the stern sits makes me wonder if there is an issue. I plan to have a hardtop installed which should add some weight. Im Wondering if this will help or if this is even an issue.
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2. This wiring looks like a fire waiting to happen. After replacing some critical exhaust seals that keep water out of the engine I will be addressing this before putting her in the water.
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3. What are these? They are on the gunwales next to the windscreen. Too small to be rod-holders?
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4. The wood on these covering boards (assuming teak) is nice but there is some serious ugly caulking between them. Are there supposed to be gaps like this between the boards?
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5. The paint on the hull overall is very nice but the touch ups in a few spots are the wrong color. How do I match the color closer for re-doing these touch ups? Are Paint chip cards available or do I need to haul it somewhere? Or is this a trial and error process?
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6. I was looking forward to peeling this "eagle claw" sticker off. but realized yesterday its not a sticker. It's painted on. lol. Acetone did very little. On another note my 7 year old thinks "eagle claw" is what we should name the boat.
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1. The previous owner drilled holes in the deck near the overboard deck drains. And, I assume from the bertram placard, those drains are supposed to be plugged while the boat is docked and unattended. This combined with how low the stern sits makes me wonder if there is an issue. I plan to have a hardtop installed which should add some weight. Im Wondering if this will help or if this is even an issue.
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2. This wiring looks like a fire waiting to happen. After replacing some critical exhaust seals that keep water out of the engine I will be addressing this before putting her in the water.
UNADJUSTEDNONRAW_thumb_1705 by ttownthomas, on Flickr
3. What are these? They are on the gunwales next to the windscreen. Too small to be rod-holders?
UNADJUSTEDNONRAW_thumb_1701 by ttownthomas, on Flickr
4. The wood on these covering boards (assuming teak) is nice but there is some serious ugly caulking between them. Are there supposed to be gaps like this between the boards?
UNADJUSTEDNONRAW_thumb_1702 by ttownthomas, on Flickr
UNADJUSTEDNONRAW_thumb_170c by ttownthomas, on Flickr
5. The paint on the hull overall is very nice but the touch ups in a few spots are the wrong color. How do I match the color closer for re-doing these touch ups? Are Paint chip cards available or do I need to haul it somewhere? Or is this a trial and error process?
UNADJUSTEDNONRAW_thumb_1703 by ttownthomas, on Flickr
6. I was looking forward to peeling this "eagle claw" sticker off. but realized yesterday its not a sticker. It's painted on. lol. Acetone did very little. On another note my 7 year old thinks "eagle claw" is what we should name the boat.
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Re: B25 Finally made it home
#3 looks like outrigger bases
#2 B25s can be known as self sinking, since it seems stern heavy, that placard is quite appropriate, leave the drain plugs in when you go away, let the bilge pumps take care of any rainwater.
#1, not sure why a hole was drilled in the deck
Your boat looks nice and clean and sits well on the trailer, I wish you many years of enjoyment
#2 B25s can be known as self sinking, since it seems stern heavy, that placard is quite appropriate, leave the drain plugs in when you go away, let the bilge pumps take care of any rainwater.
#1, not sure why a hole was drilled in the deck
Your boat looks nice and clean and sits well on the trailer, I wish you many years of enjoyment
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btw, If you wet slip it this year in salt water, make sure you change out the zincs, there is one type for fresh water and a different type for salt water.
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Great tip. Thank you. It will live on a trailer however for now.
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There is not a threaded hull drain at the transom keel junction either.ktm_2000 wrote: #2 B25s can be known as self sinking, since it seems stern heavy, that placard is quite appropriate, leave the drain plugs in when you go away, let the bilge pumps take care of any rainwater.
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My threaded hull drain is under the starboard engine, right of the center stringer and about 10 inches forwards of the transom. You remove it from the inside via a t-handle type mechanism. I’m not sure if this is standard or was added at a later date.
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Overboard deck drains.... I can't tell their size from the picture, but https://www.zoro.com/cherne-industries- ... DQodsFQLVg
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You need to re-wire. You probably need to re-(fill in the blank).
Read this: https://www.yachtsurvey.com/bilge_pumps.htm
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Read this: https://www.yachtsurvey.com/bilge_pumps.htm
Ultra Safety Systems float switch is second to none. Do not trust your boat to one of those exposed float switches. USS makes two sizes, Sr and Jr. https://www.tefgel.com/contain.php?para ... itch_price
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Yes sir. The re-wire is second on the list. And the list is long allready!
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#5. if i remember correctly, the survey said the boat was painted. These touch ups look like white gel coat. It would be useful to learn what type of paint was used on the hull, then you might be able to touch up.
#1: I don't like that hole in the deck. It's outboard of the stringers. If the passage ways are clogged up, the boat will hold water. borascope. The 6 cylinder engines are obviously heavier than the 4cyl engines that the early boats held. This might account for some of the stern heavy trim. The placard (did not exist on my '63 boat) is referring to the two scuppers. Makes sense as the scuppers are very close to water line with 4-bangers, must be very, very close with the 6 cyl engines. Get a couple of the expanding plugs. I have to use these with my little Scout
#1: I don't like that hole in the deck. It's outboard of the stringers. If the passage ways are clogged up, the boat will hold water. borascope. The 6 cylinder engines are obviously heavier than the 4cyl engines that the early boats held. This might account for some of the stern heavy trim. The placard (did not exist on my '63 boat) is referring to the two scuppers. Makes sense as the scuppers are very close to water line with 4-bangers, must be very, very close with the 6 cyl engines. Get a couple of the expanding plugs. I have to use these with my little Scout
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Apparently it was standard. Mine has it too! Thank you for the tipOrvil wrote:My threaded hull drain is under the starboard engine, right of the center stringer and about 10 inches forwards of the transom. You remove it from the inside via a t-handle type mechanism. I’m not sure if this is standard or was added at a later date.
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Anybody know where the passageways are?CamB25 wrote:
#1: I don't like that hole in the deck. It's outboard of the stringers. If the passage ways are clogged up, the boat will hold water.
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In the corners of the motorwell. not the greatest of pics for what you are looking for but there is a upside down U shaped piece of glass over the opening. You can definitely clog it up with debris and keep water on the outsides of the stringers. There is a second drain outside of the stringers forward of the fuel fill locations both locations drain into the grid of the stringers and the cross members will drain into the center stringer and back to the bilge.
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Picture of aft water passages. There are multiples sets along outboard stringers.
Picture of aft water passages. There are multiples sets along outboard stringers.
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Its hard to get to those passages but I shot a hard stream of water in there last night and it poured into the bilge from both sides. Not sure if it was clogged or not but it is clear now. After I get the dinette and galley up (they are all rotted anyway) I will have better access to to the center of the boat.
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#1. Hole someone drilled as water wasn't draining to their liking.
- aside from other issues it may let water into decking-- dry rot of core, delamination over winter
1b- low scuppers and drains can let water flow in instead of out...a problem if auto pumps don't do their thing.
#2p. Wiring- - yes indeed it looks scary. But unfortunately many of us skippers will add one direct to the battery line only for this one item. Then repeat as needed. Wish I could say I have not fallen victim to the same.
#3 yep, as mentioned those are for outriggers. Look up Perko outriggers and or tunnel mounted outriggers.
#4 teak decks and covering boards do have gaps between that are black...that said it is usually a black epoxy. Look at West system. It looks like yours are a black silicone. It also looks like your teak has been sealed with a poly-- while not traditional, it looks pretty good with less maintance.
Let me say Teak Decks and coverings are the cats meow..,.that said they are always on the maintenance list.
I had a beautiful Rockaway fighting chair in my cockpit along with a ton of teak trim. When maintained it looked incredible. When I missed a cleaning, took a shortcut, used a lesser oil, didn't let wood dry before oiling, missed a spot...the cockpit looked like crap.
Pulled it all out, poly in its place...so much more forgiving.
Looks great, just not AS great.
- aside from other issues it may let water into decking-- dry rot of core, delamination over winter
1b- low scuppers and drains can let water flow in instead of out...a problem if auto pumps don't do their thing.
#2p. Wiring- - yes indeed it looks scary. But unfortunately many of us skippers will add one direct to the battery line only for this one item. Then repeat as needed. Wish I could say I have not fallen victim to the same.
#3 yep, as mentioned those are for outriggers. Look up Perko outriggers and or tunnel mounted outriggers.
#4 teak decks and covering boards do have gaps between that are black...that said it is usually a black epoxy. Look at West system. It looks like yours are a black silicone. It also looks like your teak has been sealed with a poly-- while not traditional, it looks pretty good with less maintance.
Let me say Teak Decks and coverings are the cats meow..,.that said they are always on the maintenance list.
I had a beautiful Rockaway fighting chair in my cockpit along with a ton of teak trim. When maintained it looked incredible. When I missed a cleaning, took a shortcut, used a lesser oil, didn't let wood dry before oiling, missed a spot...the cockpit looked like crap.
Pulled it all out, poly in its place...so much more forgiving.
Looks great, just not AS great.
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I never pull my scupper plugs out....ever. There is no need. Any water on the deck ends up in the bilge and out the through hull. End of the season when I'm pressure washing the deck on the trailer out they come.
I sit about the same as yours does. The boot stripe is just under water on both sides at the far aft end of the boat. Its a stern drive thing. You were sitting on that side in the picture, I don't think you have a worry.
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I sit about the same as yours does. The boot stripe is just under water on both sides at the far aft end of the boat. Its a stern drive thing. You were sitting on that side in the picture, I don't think you have a worry.
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