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B25 Upper Station Gauges and Wiring Question

Posted: May 22nd, '13, 13:25
by Joseph Fikentscher
The Upper station instrument panel and the gauges were quite corroded and last year I was having trouble with the tachs showing the correct RPMs. I believe there were grounding problems so I decided to clean things up a bit and rewire the panel.

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Also decided to paint the bezels and covering panel.

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Looks ok for now. New gauges and re-chroming will have to wait for next years budget. Dealing with a teardown and rebuild of the house after Sandy.

Now for my question. There are a set of keyed ignition switches at both the lower and upper stations. I alwways start and stop the engines and warm them up from the lower station. I have not even put the keys into the upper station as the pushbuttons worked to restart an engine if it failed. I would like to remove the upper station key switches but am not very good with electrics. Has anyone done this before and have a diagram or link that would help me visualize this? I am also looking for red covers for the ignition pushbuttons if anyone knows of a source.

Re: B25 Upper Station Gauges and Wiring Question

Posted: May 22nd, '13, 13:26
by Joseph Fikentscher
Sorry, Posted before saying thanks for any replies.


Joe

Re: B25 Upper Station Gauges and Wiring Question

Posted: Jun 24th, '13, 12:56
by Joseph Fikentscher
Does anyone have a wiring diagram for the upper station on the B25?

When I disassembled my instrument panel, I labeled everything. Looks to me like I got it all back the right way but the Starboard gauges and engine ignition don't work so obviously I screwed something up. Man I hate electrical work. Just don't understand it.

Port seems to work ok.


Thanks,

Joe

Re: B25 Upper Station Gauges and Wiring Question

Posted: Jun 25th, '13, 07:46
by MarkS
Joe look for a post from Peter. He is an old 25 man and is a fountain of knowledge in my opinion. You could PM him and ask. I have the same gauge cluster but don't have any upper key switches. Ground and green copper wire make my head hurt.
Good luck.
-M

I think he has a post below titled "Bubble car"

Re: B25 Upper Station Gauges and Wiring Question

Posted: Jun 25th, '13, 13:29
by Joseph Fikentscher
Thanks Mark. I sent Peter a PM.

Re: B25 Upper Station Gauges and Wiring Question

Posted: Jun 25th, '13, 19:08
by lpd3
I have a copy of the original owner manual for a 1972 25 if any one wants a copy. PM me and I will forward you a copy.
Fished out of Venice last Friday and the weather couldn’t have been any better. Maybe one foot seas. Went one for three on the Hoos and struck out on the swords and tunas, to many sharks. Was able to load up on the Snapps on the way in. Endangered my butt. There a nuisance fish.
I’m trying to include pics of the rebuilt New Orleans Sport Fishing Camp at Port Eads and the diagram but cany figure out how to do it. The new camp is much better than its predecessor.

Fish On.


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-L
1972 25 Flybridge
254-1792

Re: B25 Upper Station Gauges and Wiring Question

Posted: Jun 25th, '13, 19:18
by CaptPatrick
lpd3 wrote:I’m trying to include pics of the rebuilt New Orleans Sport Fishing Camp at Port Eads and the diagram but cany figure out how to do it.
How to post images: http://www.bertram31.com/newbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: B25 Upper Station Gauges and Wiring Question

Posted: Jun 26th, '13, 06:43
by Joseph Fikentscher
Ipd3 - PM sent. Thanks

Re: B25 Upper Station Gauges and Wiring Question

Posted: Jun 27th, '13, 10:32
by Joseph Fikentscher
When I turn the key for the starboard engine, absolutely nothing happens. If the solenoid is bad will the gauges power up anyway? Or does the power to the gauges go through the solenoid?

Re: B25 Upper Station Gauges and Wiring Question

Posted: Jun 27th, '13, 10:46
by CaptPatrick
Joseph,

The solenoid and gauges are independant. A solenoid is dpdt switch that allows low amp power to close the switch and complete the flow of high amp current between the battery and engine and is connected only to the ignition switch. Check your connections, especially grounds...

Re: B25 Upper Station Gauges and Wiring Question

Posted: Jun 27th, '13, 10:54
by Joseph Fikentscher
Thanks Capt. I'll do that.

Re: B25 Upper Station Gauges and Wiring Question

Posted: Jun 27th, '13, 11:21
by Joseph Fikentscher
Went out to the boat (in driveway) and cleaned the starboard engine ground. The battery side was cleaned a few days ago. We have ignition!!!!!

Thanks Capt., you're the best!

I would still like to eliminate the keyed switches on the bridge but maybe I should just let well enough alone. Although, I am trying to clean up the bridge station and fill holes from previous owner's electronics etc. Easier to do it all at once instead of piecemeal.

Putting in a new BigT helm and Steering Wheel and would like it to look less cluttered.

Thanks again,

Joe

Re: B25 Upper Station Gauges and Wiring Question

Posted: Jul 2nd, '13, 13:05
by Joseph Fikentscher
My Tachs still do not read properly. I am assuming that to test them I should run a wire from the Neg terminal on the coil to the S terminal on the tach?? Is that correct?