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Yeah, there does seem to be some conflicts of interest going on...

Oh well, there goes the neighborhood. No more landscaping nanny goats either.

DQ

We've been "suprise attacked" offshore of Venice some 3 times by jets from Belle Chase NAS. We have videos of them passing 60 feet off the deck right next to us, over and over. Fun, after we washed out our drawers......

Would they still be rebuilding the marina for us?

They say they have FIMA funds ready to rebuild Port Eads Marina, but they also say the launch site is perfect because of its isolation -

http://www.mda.mil/news/media_library.html


Take a look at the Aegis program videos. Port Eads will never be the same if they build a launch facility.

Clay

AndreF wrote:We've been "suprise attacked" offshore of Venice some 3 times by jets from Belle Chase NAS. We have videos of them passing 60 feet off the deck right next to us, over and over. Fun, after we washed out our drawers......

i think they like to to that. in 1972 i was lying on the foredeck of an anchored sailboat off santa cruz island reading a book ("the egyptian") . i sensed something up and ahead of me and when i looked uo i was staring at the nose of a jet fighter aimed right at me. .......closing FAST. at the last second he pulled up a bit. he was so close i actually saw him . scared the absolute sh!t out of me which i guess was the point. my three friends were surfing and we all had very long hair. didnt hear him till he was behind me....BANG.

Puerto Ricans fought the Navy for sixty years to close their practice range in the island of Vieques. Nothing happened until a pilot missed a round of shots, hit the OP and killed a civilian police. Huge protest followed and the terrains were transferred to the Fish and Wildlife Administration and the local government.

For security reasons I wonder if it comes to pass that the area surrounding PE including the South pass would become restrictive or none usable like airspace around military facilities?

I doubt it would ever happen (for about ......many reasons) but Cape Canaveral has restrictions sometimes and other time none, right? California too. But those restrictions on South Pass could mean alot of time to a boat coming in for help depending on how large of an area is affected. Maybe they'll just use small missiles. Maybe Paul will tell us how large of an area they need.

And everyone running a boat through South Pass will have to have a TWIC card hanging from their necks at $132 a pop.

No launch site on the plans I saw? Maybe the trip was a covert Army Op!
Kipp

iv'e sailed the length of vandenberg (beautiful country )and have even seen a launch.....but you have the whole pacific behind you. a small pass could be a problem.............it is however the mississippi river.

Hey Walter, everyone in Venice has a TWIC card. You got no business in Venice without it. Unless your the shrimp pimp whores or Timmy the Triathalete.

A missle base will never happen there due to too many shipping interests between there and SW pass.

Where's Dave Robicheaux and his buddy Cleat, gonna fish offshore? Late night curve ball.
Yep, you guessed it...drunk again..it is the weekend...good night.
John.
Sweet dreams.

You might be right Andre.

Theres a spot off Virgina I think for missle testing and the waters are only restricted when launching.

Ask me how I know :(

Lesson: don't forget to turn on the VHF when leaving the dock at dark thirty. The guys in the red flashing lite boats will quickly chase you down.