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is this bruce in disguise?

Posted: Aug 24th, '10, 22:21
by bob lico

Posted: Aug 25th, '10, 10:36
by Ironman
Thats amazing... Hey r that rifle on my video game... LOL

Posted: Aug 25th, '10, 10:51
by bob lico
wayne i have never seen one but i know bruce is familar with shooting a 50 cal.he looked like the spotter i figure he was moonlighting ----hired gun.

Posted: Aug 25th, '10, 15:57
by Bruce
Just a few stats we had to deal with shooting that distance with a .50.

With a 750 grain A Max bullet and a muzzle velocity of 2850 fps and a 100 meter zero on the scope, the hold over at 1 mile would be 29.9 meters which is 98.3 ft.

Energy would be approx 3800 ft-lbs. Like getting hit by a small concentrated car.

This doesn't even take into consideration wind.

Spotter is absolutely essential to make that shot.

Posted: Aug 25th, '10, 17:13
by coolair
its an amazing piece of equipment to shoot. i dont think you can fully appriciate the weapon until you see one of the bullets up close and personal

Posted: Aug 25th, '10, 19:35
by Brewster Minton
They say its like a 250 Ford ditting you at speed at 1 mile.

Posted: Aug 25th, '10, 19:52
by CaptPatrick
coolair wrote:its an amazing piece of equipment to shoot. i dont think you can fully appriciate the weapon until you see one of the bullets up close and personal
Left .223, middle 30-06, right .50

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Posted: Aug 25th, '10, 21:23
by amuh60
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Posted: Aug 25th, '10, 21:47
by coolair
there ya go capt pat
a 223 hold roughly 25grs of powder
a .50 bmg can hold over 200!
i cant wait to shoot a hog with one!
oh and for plinker ammo if you are buying can be 4 bucks a piece

Posted: Aug 25th, '10, 22:18
by bob lico
bruce i would think these marines sight this weapon at 500 yards at least knowing they really don`t get a shot under 1000 yards .

Posted: Aug 26th, '10, 00:52
by Ironman
Back then...the only way out of the field..was getting a doorgunner on a LOACH job.. Being a "stay behind" sniper ..or getting hurt bad.. the sniper job doesnt seem as bad now.. your plenty far away /!!

Posted: Aug 26th, '10, 06:44
by bob lico
back them ironman the hold concept for a sniper was differant . there would be one or two in a company (about 110 men) and was issue a remington 700 bdl in 300 magnum just like a regular hunting rifle. when a unit move thru the bush they would have one bastard try to pin down the company with ak fire .take cover and you can guess what going to happen next . they had you mark out for mortar . the sniper had to take out that prick as soon as possible.the rifle had a monte carlo stock but i have no idea of what ammo they used.

Posted: Aug 26th, '10, 10:41
by Ironman
We used the sniper after we would get resupplied.. (every 3 days) the birds would come in with watert mail, c rats..etc..marking our position from afar..afterward, when we left .. there would be left overr trash (we would bury) but NVA would snoop around.. Perfect for a stay behind sniper.. (not really a get outta the bush job huh)
Wayne

Posted: Aug 27th, '10, 16:35
by Bruce
Bob,

Could be that team was setup for open country which could have set the zero at 300 meters.

Knowing the ballistics of what your shooting, its very easy to click in the scope for a known distance even from 100 meters. The challange is estimating that exact distance and windage.

Brewster,
With a muzzel velocity of about 2800 fps, the energy at 100 meters would be 12,500 ft-lbs.

At one mile the 3800 ft-lbs is more like a tree huggers Prius.

Either way its all concentrated in .50 of an inch.

Your comming apart most definatly.

Posted: Aug 27th, '10, 16:44
by bob lico
bruce something got confused not THEN i mean now with this 50cal and shooting from a rooftop in a village to the other side of town as dipicted in the current scene in iraq. nam was a differant situation trying to take out one or two cong firing radomly to pin down a company and yes they were probaly zero in at 100 to two hundred yards. the only other method was a m79 grenade luncher and that was a hard approximate shot.the army and the marines take a totally differant view of the sniper. the army guys were no big deal these marines today are the best of the best.