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Generator Space Question

Posted: Feb 10th, '10, 07:49
by mikepelham
Gentlemen:

As we get pounded in the Northeast with more snow I am dreaming of warmer days on the water in LBI. In any case, I have a 1963 31 with twin 454's. I installed AC and now want to install a generator. The boat is in NJ and I am in PA and I mis-placed my mesurements for space between engine and side of hull. Does anyone have those measurements or models that will fit? I am looking at a westerbeke and also a Kohler 5E. Any thoughts or guidance?

Posted: Feb 10th, '10, 08:25
by In Memory of Vicroy
Gonna be tough to fit a genset of any kind outboard of a V-8. Not sure if I've ever seen one? Pleanty of room outboard of an in-line diesel such as a Cummins 6B or Yannie.

UV

Posted: Feb 10th, '10, 08:32
by mikepelham
It is going to be a tight fit. However, if memory serves me correctly DeNada had gassers and a Westerbeke. Harry is that correct?

Posted: Feb 14th, '10, 12:07
by Harry Babb
I did put a Westerbeke 5 KW gasoline genset on the outboard side of DeNadas port engine.

It was tight but I did not have to remove any engine parts to get her in place.

I did install a remote oil filter......you'll never get to the filter as close as it sits to the main engine.

I liked the Westerbeke generator. It was an 1800 RPM unit and very quiet. I only had one problem and that was because I did not follow the instructions in the installation book.(at that time I was much smarter than the book....but not any more LOL)

Trying to save a nickle I used a main engine battery as a starting battery for the genset. It went fine until one day the generator was already running when I started the port engine. The generator sensed a surge and blew a fuse.....then the generator governor could not control the engine and it would go into an over speed condition and shut down when the AC compressor shut off.

I like to have never found the fuse but after replacing it and installing a dedicated battery (like the instructions said) we were whole again and the unit ran flawlessly.

The 5 KW genset is freshwater cooled. I believe the model was a BCG.
I do not care for the 3.5 KW Westerbeke gasoline generator....its an outboard motor belt driving the generator.....seawater cooled.

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Posted: Feb 15th, '10, 09:11
by Rawleigh
Nice install harry, but I bet changing the outboard plugs was a pain after that!! No wonder you are going to diesel!!

Posted: Feb 15th, '10, 11:07
by Harry Babb
Nothing to it Rawliegh

All you have to do is drydock the boat remove both cylinder heads, then crawl up thru the exhaust.....change the plugs then reassemble the whole thing....LOL

Can you tell that I just took my smart ass pill for the day.....

Actually I never got to that point before I started the repower, but I am pretty sure you are correct.

It only took about an hour to unhook and remove the genset if needed, but I believe that the plugs could be changed without doing that...but it would be tough.

I am sure the genset would have to be removed to change Exhaust manifolds.....just the price you have to pay when you put 5 pounds of crap in a 3 pound box.

H

Posted: Feb 15th, '10, 14:49
by Charlie J
harry
your like me when all else fails , let read the brains

Posted: Feb 15th, '10, 21:49
by Tony Meola
Harry

Looks like you looked at a tune up and said a repower is easier. LOL

Got to admit, I love those 6cyl Cummins. It is like I am 25 again when I used to be able to squeeze between the big block and the hull on starboard side without pulling the wing off.

Posted: Feb 16th, '10, 17:03
by Harry Babb
Tony wrote:Looks like you looked at a tune up and said a repower is easier. LOL

You hit the nail on the head.....that's a lifestlye with me.

Like Vic says......The Enemy of gooder is more gooder.....

But I have to say its been quite an experience....a gooder one....

H

Posted: Feb 16th, '10, 22:09
by Tony Meola
Harry

I know the experience as I am about 95% finished and the boat did float and we did run it. You will be more than pleased, trust me on that.