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New Risers and Manifolds
Posted: Aug 28th, '09, 12:51
by Hueso
That time has come............need new risers and manifolds for my 454 Crusaders.............mechanic said he will use the "modern ones"....
My question is: how much is a reasonable price to pay for these parts to "modernize" my twins? A rough estimate is enough.
Thanks for the help
Posted: Aug 28th, '09, 13:05
by John F.
Check, but I think EBasic Power and Larry's Lighthouse/Parts-man (online places) have sets for 454s for about $600. That's manifolds, risers, gaskets. At somebody's suggestion, I got Mercruiser exhaust mani. gaskets instead of the after-market ones.
By modern, I guess your mech. is referring to center-risers. That'll take a little plumbing/hose work--just a little though.
John F.
Posted: Aug 28th, '09, 13:06
by randall
i thought crusaders had fresh water cooled manifolds. how much time do they have on them?
Posted: Aug 28th, '09, 14:42
by Hueso
J:
He said it will improve water circulation through the engine....and will create more space on the sides of the engine, therefore it could be center risers......the mech. is shopping around for prices and he will not charge me more than he will pay for them.....only labor hours
R:
Yes, there are fresh water cooled manifolds and there is a conversion kit ....have not done it........manifolds and risers are 6 years old....bit clogged.....one of the engines was rising temp in neutral.....new impellers and still the same....time to change them......life expectancy is 5 I don't want BIG BILL chasing me later on......
Posted: Aug 28th, '09, 15:16
by John F.
If you currently have raw water cooled manifolds/motors, then I can see why the manifolds are going after 5 years. My mercs have closed cooled manifolds, and raw water is dumped in the risers after going through the heat exchangers. Closed cooled manifolds should last more than 5 years I think...
Posted: Aug 28th, '09, 15:50
by Bruce
If you go with center riser type and you had the traditional Crusader manifolds, your exhaust hose probably will come up short.
Make sure you account for that.
Posted: Aug 28th, '09, 19:11
by scot
Don't forget to check Ebay. It's not uncommon to find a set of new-surplus risers at 1/2 price.
The Aftermath
Posted: Oct 1st, '09, 17:07
by Hueso
After four new manifolds, risers and 2,000 high end dollars, the cause of my B31's "white" smoke was a broken down impeller.......which by the way were installed "new" on April of this year. Although it was time to change the manifolds and risers..........as my father (a civil engineer) used to say........."always begin with the cheapest part"........
Posted: Oct 1st, '09, 19:55
by Harry Babb
Hueso....I have a 69 Corvette. Not long after I bought it I decided to rebuild the engine to get rid of a small nagging vibration.
I even went so far as to have the rotating assembly balanced.....vibration was still there......
The vibration was the FAN
What's done is done.....you can feel good for a few years now that you will not ruin an engine because of manifolds and risers.....have a beer and catch a fish and you will feel better tomorrow
Harry
Posted: Oct 2nd, '09, 06:57
by Carl
Ahh it's only money...
Manifolds may have lasted a bit more , but it was getting to the time the risers needed to be changed. So your a little ahead and can start the clock all over again.