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Question About the 1970 B31 Half Hull Wall Plaques

Posted: Jul 19th, '09, 14:14
by RHG
I've been a long time boater and Bertram/Ray Hunt fan. I don't currently own a Bertram...at least not a full size one! I do have one of those B31 half hull wall plaques, however, that were issued in 1970 to celebrate the 1000th hull being made.

I've read every post that mentions this plaque on the older bulletin board where there was mention of the intention of these being reproduced. Does anyone know if this ever happened? There does not seem to be any mention of these plaques that I can find using the search function on this (the new) bulletin board.

Basically, I am trying to figure out if the one I have is an original or a reproduction. What is throwing me off is that my B31 plaque does not have any of the markings on it that are mentioned in the older posts...in fact, I cannot find any markings on it at all.

I'd really like to see a photo of one of the originals if anyone has one and is able to post. From what I understand, the 1000th hull plaques were all just the half HULL....not the full half of the boat (like the one pictured in the Bertram Legend book on page 132).

Any input is greatly appreciated.

Posted: Jul 19th, '09, 18:34
by In Memory Walter K
I have ONLY seen half hull plaques that were of the hull only. There was talk of duplicating one for selling to the bretheren.

Posted: Jul 20th, '09, 08:31
by jackryan
Please Post a photo of your half hull plaque.

John Ryan

Posted: Jul 20th, '09, 08:38
by Brewster Minton
If someone was to make them I would love to buy one for sure.

Posted: Jul 20th, '09, 11:01
by Bertramp
Hmmm ... let's think ... who do we know that is a TRUE artist with wood ?

Posted: Jul 20th, '09, 11:07
by Brewster Minton
Ya, but his work costs big $$$$

Posted: Jul 20th, '09, 11:15
by Bertramp
I didn't mention any names .... of people on the east end of LI ... that have a real nice B25 with inboards ..... nope, I did not :-D

I wonder if they could be made with a one off mold and then just resin "pop-outs" afterwards.

Posted: Jul 20th, '09, 11:46
by Bruce
Its already been tried.

The problem arises from the labor time involved to make a nice finished product that's affordable and the maker can make a few bucks.

Its not just the individual models its also figuring the time it takes to build and maintain a mold.

Posted: Jul 20th, '09, 12:12
by Craig Mac
Not a half hull but a pretty cool full model



http://www.todddunnmicroyachts.com/2007/bertram31.html

Posted: Jul 20th, '09, 12:35
by Bertramp
That full model is gorgeous, but I'll bet I paid less for my 13' Whaler.

I did a quick search and emailed these guys.
http://www.halfhull.net/

I'll inform of their response, but the prices for what I see seem reasonable.

Posted: Jul 20th, '09, 12:54
by Bertramp
There is another manufacturer that makes a really nice model.

http://www.seacraftclassics.com/store/p ... rtram.html

gorgeous, but at 16" for $2,300 ... it's over $1,000 a foot. B31s in the early 1960s were probably right around the $1,000 a foot range and can still take the family for a ride !! Not quite in my current budget.

Posted: Jul 20th, '09, 13:42
by jspiezio
If someone has a half hull model available I might be able to make something happen.

Posted: Jul 20th, '09, 13:49
by RHG
Bruce wrote:Its already been tried.

The problem arises from the labor time involved to make a nice finished product that's affordable and the maker can make a few bucks.

Its not just the individual models its also figuring the time it takes to build and maintain a mold.
So it sounds like the repros never happened then. So that would confirm my thoughts about mine being an original. Anyway, it still does not have the plate/markings that say 1000th Hull/10th Aniversary/1970/etc. which is curious.

I'll post a pic of mine later today when I get home from work.

Posted: Jul 20th, '09, 14:46
by Rawleigh
Nice model, but I can't say much for that upholstery!! Yuck!

Posted: Jul 20th, '09, 14:47
by Bruce
I was refering to one of our own trying it here.
Can't say whether someone outside this group has tried.

When a final estimate of price was given at 500 bucks or so most here passed.

Posted: Jul 20th, '09, 16:38
by randall
the truth is that at one time i built models for a living. i built models for architects and worked for disney for a few years. i would love to build bertram models... but, like learning to fly bi-planes ,i have grown to realize there just aint that much time in one life.

hope someone does it

Posted: Jul 20th, '09, 19:08
by jspiezio
It can easily be machined if you guys have an existing model I can digitize.

Posted: Jul 20th, '09, 20:51
by JeremyD

Posted: Jul 20th, '09, 21:10
by RHG
As requested, here's a pic of my plaque. If anyone has a photo they can post of one of the plaques that HAS the 1970/1000th hull inscription, I'd love to see it.

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