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New video shows shot from cabin while underway
Posted: Dec 15th, '08, 21:26
by yachts101
Posted: Dec 15th, '08, 22:03
by JK
That's pretty nice but I am still biased to the original.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abt1Ek8KgYw
--JK
Posted: Dec 15th, '08, 22:11
by bob lico
and so am i jk .is that about 24kns in that picture?
Posted: Dec 15th, '08, 22:16
by JK
Yep, 24knts against the tide and couldn't get more due the the Solo II's that we discussed. I will play with them again in the spring. I sure miss running at 2600 or even 2800 for a short bit.
--JK
Posted: Dec 15th, '08, 22:17
by In Memory Walter K
Is it my imagination or is the Nassau chunkier looking? I look at the pictures of Sea Nile running and it looks so much more graceful. Looks like they may have increased the height of the cabin a few inches? Maybe it's just the photography but JK's boat looks nicer to me. Maybe it's the enclosure and all the goodies. Normally, the simpler looks better.
Posted: Dec 15th, '08, 22:30
by bob lico
jk the main problem is at 24kns the boat has alot of drag as you increase speed the boat keeps rising on the strakes.this picture is at 31kns in 4' seas because it is turning in the head seas at 38kns the chines are totally out of the water and she is riding on the 1st set of stakes at midships to stern.
Posted: Dec 15th, '08, 22:37
by bob lico
we have to resolve this solo 11 problem one way or another at least mine will go 2700rpm but is capable of 3050rpm.i have had it there with another cable arangment but bought into solo11 for looks on the pod.
Posted: Dec 15th, '08, 22:40
by JK
I do remember how the boat feels at 26+knts as it seems to lighten up and run higher. I remember seeing 30.8knts before the redo with full fuel and 4 adults. It feels a bit wasteful having these 300hp 6BTA's and "only" getting 26knts when i know there is more to be had.
--JK
Posted: Dec 15th, '08, 23:05
by mike ohlstein
Posted: Dec 16th, '08, 06:59
by Bruce
4' seas
Bob,
We call that 1 to 2 down south.
Posted: Dec 16th, '08, 07:04
by tds8268
Me thinks he was trying to type " and instead hit ' key.
Posted: Dec 16th, '08, 10:56
by Carl
walterk wrote:Is it my imagination or is the Nassau chunkier looking? I look at the pictures of Sea Nile running and it looks so much more graceful. Looks like they may have increased the height of the cabin a few inches? Maybe it's just the photography but JK's boat looks nicer to me. Maybe it's the enclosure and all the goodies. Normally, the simpler looks better.
I'm thinking it looks chunkier because of the solid dark hull color and Offwhite topside.
Maybe Bob has smaller feet...
Posted: Dec 16th, '08, 11:06
by Mikey
Walt,
They appear to have hired video folks who need more OJT. Their finished product makes the boat look twelve-foot long and twelve-feet tall. Bad production. I wouldn't have let a video of my new product out onto the web without thoroughly viewing on the web , but what do we know, Pal, we only spent our lives in the 'biz.'
Posted: Dec 16th, '08, 14:56
by bob lico
bruce i was trying to establish the speed of the boat increasing dramaticly from 2600 to 2700 as opposed to adding the same 100rpm at lets say 1900 to 2000.the wave height goes from 1to 2 and then 2to 3 and 3to 4 in less than 1/4mile i took the first of the sequencial shots did not think it was important i know your there to sniff out the bullshit factor as in the nassau 32 but this is not one here is #2.btw why in the world would you want to core the bottom to reduce weight thats exactly where you add weight ----cetroid of gravity.
Posted: Dec 16th, '08, 16:40
by Harv
Years ago Tropical Storm Fabian was 400 miles off our coast. Dad and I had done some fishing in beautiful calm water with well distanced 8 -10 foot swells, that you could hardly feel a thing, nice and gentle. Coming back into Jones Inlet, they started building on the shoals. You can easily see a wave cresting over the jetty, and dad decided to ride the back of that wave through the inlet. This video doesn't show us running profile, but dad was more concerned about the view in front of him and the GPS, than what was coming up our stern. He finally pinned the throttles, and later told me the GPS said 42mph. Boy did those big blocks sing!!
http://www.justkeepfishing.com/GiveJuice.html
Posted: Dec 16th, '08, 16:42
by Harv
walterk wrote:Is it my imagination or is the Nassau chunkier looking? I look at the pictures of Sea Nile running and it looks so much more graceful. Looks like they may have increased the height of the cabin a few inches? Maybe it's just the photography but JK's boat looks nicer to me. Maybe it's the enclosure and all the goodies. Normally, the simpler looks better.
Walter,
the lack of a different color at the waterline gives off the appearence of a stocky boat. If there was a different color the hullsides would then actually look longer and leaner than his photos show. Also, I think that color green is the wrong color for any boat. JMO!
Posted: Dec 16th, '08, 17:02
by Raybo Marine NY
I think you guys are getting a bit worked up over this.
While the design of the 31 is a great timeless design, the build quality was not space age. Glass was laid on thick and heavy because they did not know any better. Bulkheads were formica, some had no glass at all- most of them rotted out after so many years along with every other piece of wood in the boat that had no fiberglass on it, and we all know there is plenty of raw wood panels in a 31.
You guys yourself say you ADD weight to your boats to get them to perform in heavier seas. Well most people DONT run thier boats in that. Your boats in thier stock configuration- by your very words- cannot handle rough seas without ballast.
So for the other 90% of the people who run thier boats in normal conditions a lighter boat will have better fuel economy and be a faster boat. A Nassau owner can also ballast his boat out if he needs it to be so whats the harm ?
Heck even race boats ballast thier boats for different water conditions otherwise its build them as light and strong as possible.
I do agree on that hull color- it is a TERRIBLE color for that boat.
Posted: Dec 16th, '08, 17:23
by John F.
I know you diesel guys may differ, but there's nothing like a BB in full song--and Harv was even so polite as to say "thank-you" to Sy. Priceless.
Posted: Dec 16th, '08, 17:25
by Raybo Marine NY
I would like to hear Craigs BB motors when he is chugging along at 40 knots.
Posted: Dec 16th, '08, 17:32
by dougl33
JK,
I'm surprised you're only getting 26 knots on the pins with your 300hp 6BTA's. I'm running the same motors in my 33 and I top out at 28.5-30 knots.
Posted: Dec 16th, '08, 17:48
by Harv
Raybo Marine NY wrote:I would like to hear Craigs BB motors when he is chugging along at 40 knots.
I wouldn't want to see his fuel burn.
Been there ....done that!!!
Posted: Dec 16th, '08, 18:26
by Carl
Nice clip Harv.
They do sing a wonderfull tune when hooked up and running on the pins.
Posted: Dec 16th, '08, 19:49
by Harv
Getting a push from that wave didn't hurt either.
Posted: Dec 16th, '08, 19:52
by Harv
John F. wrote:I know you diesel guys may differ, but there's nothing like a BB in full song--and Harv was even so polite as to say "thank-you" to Sy. Priceless.
John,
I wouldn't mind hearing the turbos whine when I get my diesels.
There may be a possibility that my gassers may go back. All has to do with priorities,
and first priority is to buy out my sister's half of the house, and square away the rest of my mom's estate..
Posted: Dec 16th, '08, 21:34
by Tony Meola
You guys are right, nothing like hearing those second set of barrels kick in and the scream of a big block, but I suspect when all is said and done I will enjoy the turbo whine on the cummins once I am done.
Posted: Dec 16th, '08, 21:38
by JK
dougl33 wrote:JK,
I'm surprised you're only getting 26 knots on the pins with your 300hp 6BTA's. I'm running the same motors in my 33 and I top out at 28.5-30 knots.
Doug,
It's only because my "pins" are not allowing me full throw of the cable. Engines spin 3050+ and I do get 30.8knts but the Solo II's limited the throttle throw and only allow 2550 rpms. I'll tinker with it again in the spring and get the throttles right.
--JK
Posted: Dec 16th, '08, 21:48
by CaptPatrick
John,
When you get around to tinkerin', remove the levers and add green Loctite to the shafts. Green Loctite is formulated for rotational applications... Should help your levers from slipping on the control shaft.
Br,
Patrick
Posted: Dec 16th, '08, 22:08
by dougl33
Gotcha.
You're really babying those things at 3050rpms (which is great!). I'm turning just over 2900rpms @ WOT.
Posted: Dec 16th, '08, 23:53
by Rocky
Hi guys, I've got a pretty loud "tick" on my starboard bb, think this could have been ethanol for a valve? I need a flexible borascope. Rocky.
Posted: Dec 17th, '08, 01:38
by Harv
It's quite possible. When my engine let go, however, it was more like marbles clattering in the valves, not just a tick. I also need that flexible borascope if I decide to try my surgery again.
Posted: Dec 17th, '08, 08:25
by In Memory of Vicroy
JK - on the throttle travel issue....the throttle lever on the injector pumps of my 6BTA 250s has two holes for the cable attachement point, one at the end and one in a little way.....try the second hole and will give more travel???
UV
Posted: Dec 17th, '08, 09:19
by Bruce
I wouldn't mind hearing the turbos whine when I get my diesels
but there's nothing like a BB in full song
They all pale in comparison to a blower whine.
This is the startup of a two year project I traveled to Texas and South Carolina to get the components.
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JK,
Theres a good chance I'll be comming up North sometime in the spring.
If your boats in the water, I would be happy to come by and see if I can fix the problem on your Solo's.
I'd tell you what I did but I can't remember 4 years ago what exactly fixed it.
Posted: Dec 17th, '08, 09:40
by Charlie J
nice
Posted: Dec 17th, '08, 10:59
by Rawleigh
Nice video Harv!
Posted: Dec 17th, '08, 12:20
by John F.
Nice. Thanks. Post a pic. of a run once its sorted out. Can't wait.
Posted: Dec 18th, '08, 00:40
by Rocky
Bruce, a supercharged 6.0 litre chevy towes my bert. I like the sound as well. Rocky.