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Gear ratio
Posted: Aug 27th, '08, 11:22
by opunui
What is the difference between a 1:5 to1 vs a 2:1 in shaft rpm from your transmission? Thanks again.
Posted: Aug 27th, '08, 11:37
by Harry Babb
1.5:1.......Shaft will turn .6666 times engine RPM
2:1..........Shaft will turn .5 times engine RPM
Example 2000 Engine RPM....1.5:1 gear....shaft will turn 1333 RPM
2000 Engine RPM....2:1 gear......shaft will turn 1000 RPM
Harry
Posted: Aug 27th, '08, 11:59
by In Memory Walter K
Usually the 2:1 tranny turns a higher pitched prop at the lower RPM's
Posted: Aug 27th, '08, 12:02
by CaptPatrick
Selecting the proper gear ratio is also dependant on which engines, rated RPM, & horse power you're coupling the transmissions to...
For example, the 320 - 330 HP Cummins 6BTA needs a 1.5:1 ratio, but the 315 Yanmar 6 LP/LY or the 4 LH needs a 2:1 ratio. Basically, low RPM engines need the 1.5:1 & high RPM engines need 2:1...
Br,
Patrick
Gear ratio
Posted: Aug 27th, '08, 12:06
by opunui
Thanks Walter and Harry. one more ?. if i were to put Yanmar 315s in my 31 what is in your opinion the best gear ratio. the boat is light no gen set or things like that. I would like to see a wot of 32kts. but if possible be able to live bait on the first click.Thanks again so much.
Posted: Aug 27th, '08, 12:13
by CaptPatrick
Uh, hello....
315 Yanmar 6 LP/LY or the 4 LH needs a 2:1 ratio. Basically, low RPM engines need the 1.5:1 & high RPM engines need 2:1...
Posted: Aug 27th, '08, 12:25
by mike ohlstein
Although I'm fairly well convinced that the Yanmar 230 has enough grunt to go somewhere in the neighborhood of 1.85 to 1. I think that it would allow for the use of a square prop (20X20) while maintaining cruising speed and proper engine loading, without burning the prop tips.
Just my 2 cents......
Posted: Aug 27th, '08, 13:18
by CaptPatrick
Mike,
Are you getting any burning with your setup?
Posted: Aug 27th, '08, 13:53
by scot
I realize that HP "is what it is" but, doesn't torque at the shaft increase by adding reduction? I was under the impression that 2:1 gear basically doubled the torque at the prop? 1:5 added 50%, etc. and this was why boats with stepper reductions were less effected by load, or sea state.
Assuming the engine/gear combination are within reason and prop pitch + shaft rpm + slippage provides the desired hull speed.
Should I check into rehab?
Gear ratio
Posted: Aug 27th, '08, 15:19
by opunui
Cap'n Pat if you look at the time you posted and my next question that was posted you will see why I missed your reply. Thanks though.
Posted: Aug 27th, '08, 15:38
by Bruce
Some of you guys must be using chinese calculators.
Posted: Aug 27th, '08, 20:56
by Harry Babb
Some of you guys must be using chinese calculators
Bruce......how did you know??
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Harry
Posted: Aug 27th, '08, 21:13
by Charlie J
iam running 1.5 trannys with the yanmar 230LAH ST, on a bahia mar
mike you have the same engines on your fb whats your ratio
Posted: Aug 28th, '08, 13:19
by mike ohlstein
CaptPatrick wrote:Mike,
Are you getting any burning with your setup?
No. 20X22 four blade 2:1
Posted: Aug 28th, '08, 23:07
by nic
Opunui,
We have Yanmar 6LPs 305hp (315hp with lower Cetane rating here) with 20 x 23 four bladed and we get 30.5knots wot regularly, but tell everyone 32 at the pub and get away with it.
Locals are getting better top speed results with smaller dia props and suggested 19 x 24s but we went for the size most commonly recommended on this site and are very happy. Massive grip on the water...idle is 6knots approx.
The most important thing is to max at 3900+ revs, we get 3940 & 3960 or so, for long engine life.
Nic