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Bonita... Easten or pacific?

Posted: May 14th, '08, 19:56
by Ironman
Guys .. we been catching some huge 18#+bones here (Calif record is 21#)I know they bees bigger ones here. Just havent landed one yet.
some have stripes vert. & some horiz... & some BOTH ways.
Anyone recognize these?
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Go to fish reports.
http://www.jdsbiggame.com/index01.htm

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Posted: May 14th, '08, 21:29
by Kingfish
That my friend is a GOOD size Bonie!

Boat looks great also. :wink:

Posted: May 14th, '08, 21:50
by Harry Babb
Its been a while since we caught a Bonita but.........I do not remember the stripes..........kinda looks like his daddy may be a Wahoo............

Your 31 looks good.......

Here is a pic of a Gulf of Mexico little Bonita


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AKA bonita

Posted: May 14th, '08, 22:03
by Tom
Harry, what we here in da south call a bonita is in fact a false albacore. In essence, inedible unlike true bonitas. But, my Korean barber Lisa loves to make fish soup out of them. She reciprocates with a message so all is good. -Tom

Posted: May 14th, '08, 22:22
by Tony Meola
If they have teeth they should be true Bonita. Enjoy them. For the most part, false Albacore is cat food. Great fish to catch though.

Posted: May 14th, '08, 22:23
by Harry Babb
Tom

A charter fisherman very close friend of mine talked about cooking "Bonita Burgers".

I was lucky in that I was never around when he served um up........don't think I could stomach Bonita............but I dearly love good Tuna

So.........the fish that Wayne is showing is actually a Bonita????


Harry

Posted: May 14th, '08, 22:43
by Buju
Yup, Wayne's looks like a real Pacific Bonito... (Sarda chillinesis)
In the Atlantic the species is (Sarda sarda)

Harry's is a Little Tunny aka False Albacore aka Bonita (in FL and the Gulf) ... (Euthynnus alletteratus)

Posted: May 15th, '08, 13:34
by Harv
Tony Meola wrote: false Albacore is cat food.
My cat won't go near them.

Posted: May 15th, '08, 14:54
by Harry Babb
Harv
Sounds like your cat is a "Choosey Mother".........just like the Jiffy Peanut Butter gal (Only choosey mothers choose Jiffy)

We gave one of our cats some Cozy Kitten catfood once and after smelling of it she immediately turned her back to it and started scratching dirt in efforts to cover it up.

Harry

Posted: May 15th, '08, 21:41
by Tony Meola
Harry

I can believe Harv's cat will not eat them. False Albacore is nasty stuff. You need to soak it for week changing the water often. Then throw them out.

I know some guys who eat them but they are tough. Now True Bonita, the ones with the teeth, just throw them on the Barbeque and you are all set. Try coating them in some mustard then cook them. Sounds gross, but is actually quite good.

Posted: May 16th, '08, 07:33
by Harv
Hell,

I tried burying falsies in the garden as fertilizer and the plants died.

Posted: May 16th, '08, 08:16
by Carl
I tried burying falsies in the garden as fertilizer and the plants died.

LOL... Funny cause I don't really like eating fish much, but I don't think falsies are that bad.

Posted: May 16th, '08, 08:55
by Brewster Minton
Thats great bait right there.

Posted: May 16th, '08, 21:33
by Tony Meola
I tried burying falsies in the garden as fertilizer and the plants died.

Funny Harv, next you will say that even the fly's stayed away.

Posted: May 17th, '08, 07:03
by Harv
Tony,

the only thing I have ever seen flies stay away from is margarine.
Now that stuff can't be good for anyone.

Posted: May 17th, '08, 07:33
by randall
OK...at the time we thought this was an atlantic bonita.......????Image

Posted: May 17th, '08, 07:40
by Harv
Randall,

hard to tell from that photo angle.
What color was the top of the fish? Blue or green?
Where were the stripes? Top? Belly?
Were the stripes straight or crooked like a mackeral?
Any spots on the belly?

Posted: May 17th, '08, 08:55
by Harv
To simplify identification go to http://www.gma.org/fogm/Scombridae.htm
Basically,
Blue back with stripes on back with long 1st dorsal = Skipjack Bonito
Blue back with stripes on Belly with shorter dorsal = Oceanic or Common Bonito
Green back with curly lines on back, short dorsal like the oceanic, usually with spots on the belly, but not necessarily = false albacore.

Food value
Skippy's first
Common or oceanic next
Falsies, don't bother