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Well after reading this article, I have decided that I will definitely not be using Cummins diesels in Windstar. After a long proud tradition with unionized labor, Cummins has taken an anti union position with several of it's plants and ruined the lives of many loyal hardworking employees.

As a union member myself (Teamsters) I find it hard to support a company that is clearly taking a path to being a bottom feeder. If they had been nonunion all along it wouldn't make a difference. But there is no way I can support a union buster and scab employer.

http://www.teamster.org/07news/nr_070802_1.asp

also check the pdf link at the bottom....it goes into more detail regarding 18 illegally sponsored union decirtification attemts by Cummins since 2000. A decirt vote can only be called by the union members themselves, not the company.

Harv,
You've touched on a subject that's as delicate as religon or politics.

There are good points for both sides of the union argument.

Lets be very careful how we post replies as friendships can be lost with this topic.

I will be watching very carefuly and will lock or delete this thread if need be.

Lets be civil.

Hey Harv, I consider you one of my very best friends and you are on my "always take his call" list at my office, and damn few are. Please don't go there, has nothing to do with why we are all friends.

Respectfully,

UV

Bruce,

I agree there are good points for both sides of this argument.
Having been on both sides, I know which is better for me personally. I am not knocking the product, just the current business practice. As I said, if they were never a unionized company it wouldn't make a difference to me. I am certainly not looking to disrupt any friendships here as I treasure them all. If you feel the need to lock or delete this thread, I have no problem with that and understand completely.

UV,

I am honored by my position in your life and have the utmost respect for you and your opinions. As far as I am concerrned, I have said all I have to say on this topic.

Harv, I still like you no matter your short comings.

Thuddddddddddddd

That's what makes this site what it is. Walter

Good call Bruce............I can see that this post could get out of hand very quick.........

Harry Babb

2 couples , wanting more"rights" go on vacation, oh wait wrong thread.

I'm just here for the beer.

BEER, who's got beer???? it's Thursday and I've got 50 hrs in this week and had off on Monday......

Unions... been there done that and appreciated it. I just wish the others had as well...

Thudddddd.... I bet ya a bottle of your favoriate libation that I make it to Atlantic City next year and you don't, by baot that is.....

btw if you make it to MD and don't let me know, then you really are a smuck.....

(I blame it on the rum & a long day at work...)

br,
John

Since the libations have been brought out, I would like to make a toast.

Here's a health to you and yours who have done such things for us and ours.

And when we and ours have it in our powers to do for you and yours what you and yours have done for us and ours,

Then we and ours will do for you and yours what you and yours have done for us and ours.

Here's to Bertram 31.com

John, probably sept. Vintigers(shot gun guys ) are haveing ashoot at some fancy club in your area. Crowther says he know where its at.
Thanks for the invite.
FAr as AC, you'll have do define boat, otherwise you will loose.

thuddddddddd

You better make that "the tub" or he will show up on someone elses!!

Hick up!!!!

Rawleigh wrote:You better make that "the tub" or he will show up on someone elses!!

Good Point Thuddddd the answer is No you can't borrow it!!!!!

I might copy this therad for my Bertram "info" book under the heading "The Good Life".
Good thread, thanks Bruce.

Three retired gentlemen were playing golf one afternoon when one of them said "Sure is windy today"........His partener replyed "I thought it was Thursday" and at that point the third guys says "Me to lets go get a beer"

Harry Babb

Bruce wrote:Since the libations have been brought out, I would like to make a toast.

Here's a health to you and yours who have done such things for us and ours.

And when we and ours have it in our powers to do for you and yours what you and yours have done for us and ours,

Then we and ours will do for you and yours what you and yours have done for us and ours.

Here's to Bertram 31.com

Excellent toast Bruce,

I'll drink to that and to everyone in this sandbox.

Come on dan, you and me , road trip. (ok boat trip)

Two blondes looking at the moon.

One says; I wonder which is closer, the moon or Miami Beach?

Other says, The moon stupid you can't see Miami Beach from here.

Damn Bruce
I was trying for the "King of Corn" title but I believe you beat me out.....
Harry Babb

Bruce,
Is Creamer Irish? That them and those, these and this gots to be Irish. They be the onliest ones to keep something like that straight. Course it might take a tot or two.

Mikey,
Sorry but the Irish is on my mom's side.

Creamer is from the land ruled by a queen, and I don't mean San Francisco.