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ZF gears

Posted: Aug 9th, '07, 17:25
by JohnCranston
Does anyone know where's the best place to find model 220a 2 to 1 gears? I'd like to buy new if possible. Not much luck here in Houston.

Thanks

Posted: Aug 9th, '07, 20:41
by nic
John,

Normally you buy them in a package from the engine manufacturer if you are buying new. I believe you end up paying a lot more when you buy them individually and if there are issues with the fitting then you have warranty discontinuity which will be a source of frustration forever.

Nic

Posted: Aug 9th, '07, 22:15
by Harry Babb
John
In our area there are 2 companies that repair, repower and maintain yachts.........Middleton Marine and Saunders Yacht company.......both of these companies can get ZF gears and parts. Not all of the marinas are dealers for engines and gears althought they advertise and do work on engines

Also I am sure that the Cummins dealer, Cat dealer, Yanny dealer or Mann dealer in your area can get the gears for you and even assist mounting them onto your engine.......if needed.............

I would certainly recommend getting them from some one near you.....

Harry Babb

Posted: Aug 9th, '07, 23:01
by DanielM
John,

I think Palmer Power in Houston carries them.

DanielM

Posted: Aug 10th, '07, 09:01
by JohnD
John, When I had some quetions about my zf280's re-gearing or buying new. I looked up the number on their website and gave them a call. They answered all of my questions questions though the prices were steep. I'm not sure if the 220 is much different, but the 280A's were quoted at $4800. Buy them with a package if you can, it should be cheaper.

I found a set loacally, still had to buy some parts to get them to work, but they had never been in service so I get some warranty from them.

If your local rep isn't anygood try the listing for Stevensville Maryland.

br,
JohnD

Posted: Aug 10th, '07, 09:20
by JohnCranston
Thanks guys,
I found a pair of Yanmar 315's with ZF 220a gears. The wrong gear ratio...1 to 1.25. He bought them new 3 years ago and was going to install them in a aluminum cat. He decided to go with Suzuki 300 hp outboards. Engines never used. He wants $32k for everything. Doesn't appear that there's any market for those gears. I got a quote on new gears yesterday for $7k for a pair of 2 to 1's. Trying to make this deal work, but not sure if it is.

Posted: Aug 10th, '07, 09:36
by 34Hatt
John I had got mine from Tony Athens Seaboard Marine good price and great people too do business with.

Posted: Aug 10th, '07, 12:20
by JohnD
That sounds like a decent deal and I know you've been looking for a while. I had a similar situation, the package I got came with 2:1's and that would have required me to increase shaft angle to turn a bigger wheel. So I found a pr of 1.5:1 and saved about $1k each and need to sell the 2:1's, you shure you cant use a 280A? (it may be a little big.... for what you need).

Keep looking, thats how I found the ones I needed & the 220A is a popular gear so a set should turn up some where. Heck, call the local yanmar dealer and see if they'd swap you??

br,
John

Posted: Aug 10th, '07, 14:06
by JohnCranston
John,

I'm going to call the guy and see if he would contact the dealer he bought them from and see if he can get them swapped.

Thanks

Posted: Aug 10th, '07, 17:29
by JP Dalik
Call the local ZF- this could be your local cummins distributor- see if you can work out a swap if not get a price to change the ratio.

Posted: Aug 10th, '07, 20:08
by nic
John,

I agree, you should be able to change the ratio - that sounds like a very reasonable deal. If the engines are 2001 manufacture date or earlier they will be in the "ticking" problem era. It's not easy to find out the date from the engine No.s but you should be able to track the selling dealer.

Good luck, we love our Yannies and paid double that plus.

Nic

Posted: Aug 10th, '07, 20:11
by JohnCranston
JP,

I called a local ZF dealer earlier today. He called ZF directly and was told that as long as the gears were never put into service, then, they would either swap the gears or change the ratio on mine. They want the serial # off the gears before they can give a price. I'm waiting on the seller to get back with me.

Thanks

Posted: Aug 10th, '07, 22:25
by scot
Doesn't appear that there's any market for those gears.
I can tell you first hand that there are basically no gears around in the "near" 1:1 range. The only 1:1 type gears out there are Borg Warners and Allison....one too small and one too big! and neither with down angles.

John it sounds like a nice deal and they will push the boat nicely. Good luck.