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Decorative Bow Cleat required

Posted: Feb 26th, '22, 10:07
by Joeboo
Friends,
I am searching for a Decorative Bow Cleat, new or used good condition.
Application is a 1965 Bertram 20 Center Console (Outboard) we are updating/ restoring.
Currently there is a centered pop-up cleat in the forepeak area.

We would like to replace with something similar to link below (top two pics).
(Hightide does not have stock of this item)
http://www.hightidemarine.cc/adjusters.htm

Thank you in advance for any/ all suggestions
John

Re: Decorative Bow Cleat required

Posted: Feb 26th, '22, 22:08
by Tony Meola
Joe

See if one of these work. Hopefully maybe someone who has redone their boat may have an original laying around.

https://www.boatoutfitters.com/hardware/cleats

https://suncorstainless.com/steel-produ ... ter-cleat/

Re: Decorative Bow Cleat required

Posted: Feb 27th, '22, 11:05
by Ironworker
I'm going to be removing my original Bow cleat from my 31 and replacing with bow roller.

Re: Decorative Bow Cleat required

Posted: Feb 27th, '22, 22:59
by Tony Meola
Rick

You using the bow roller for a winch? If you put it on, if you could send me a picture, I would like to see how the boat looks with it on. I have been debating a winch and a pulpit just does not look right on our boats.

Re: Decorative Bow Cleat required

Posted: Feb 28th, '22, 10:19
by Ironworker
Tony Meola wrote: Feb 27th, '22, 22:59 Rick

You using the bow roller for a winch? If you put it on, if you could send me a picture, I would like to see how the boat looks with it on. I have been debating a winch and a pulpit just does not look right on our boats.
WILCO, I haven't bought the roller or anchor yet. There is a thread somewhere here on Bertram31 where some photos where posted. I'm going to center my roller so the bow ornament has got to go.

Re: Decorative Bow Cleat required

Posted: Feb 28th, '22, 15:43
by Amberjack
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May not look as classic as the original Art Deco bow chock but a heck of a lot easier on the back

Re: Decorative Bow Cleat required

Posted: Feb 28th, '22, 20:34
by Yannis
Doug,

What is that small second roller on top for?

Re: Decorative Bow Cleat required

Posted: Mar 1st, '22, 10:26
by Yannis

Re: Decorative Bow Cleat required

Posted: Mar 1st, '22, 15:19
by Amberjack
Yannis wrote: Feb 28th, '22, 20:34 Doug,

What is that small second roller on top for?
It confines the ground tackle to the bow roller like the SS hoop you have on the front of yours. Mine being mounted further aft the chain and then the anchor stock can lift up against it when being raised or lowered. The roller allows them to roll rather than scrape. Your hoop is far enough forward that the uplift from the anchor stock occurs aft of it and the ground tackle doesn't bind against it.

Re: Decorative Bow Cleat required

Posted: Mar 1st, '22, 16:57
by Yannis
Thanks.
So that roller, like my hoop, is to stop the anchor from jumping out and over the main roller during heavy weather, something that would be serious IF the anchor is not secured with a secondary rope or shackle or something. Or, jump out of its track when lifted, while the boat is at a different angle eg sideways.

I have a similar aluminum fortress anchor like you, as a second anchor, and I use it from the stern when I moor bow-in.
Very good anchor, bites so fast so well that sometimes I have a hard time to lift it up. That is why I want to install a winch on the rear deck somewhere so as to avoid breaking my back, however with covid and all that mess many projects stayed behind...

Re: Decorative Bow Cleat required

Posted: Mar 1st, '22, 22:06
by Tony Meola
Doug

Is that a Good Winch? They are the ones I was talking too. He is local in NJ and has an excellent reputation. I was not crazy over his roller and was not sure of the look.

I personally like the look of a pulpit but not on our boats. It just does not fit the profile.

By the way, sorry for taking the thread off track, and thank you for the replies.

Re: Decorative Bow Cleat required

Posted: Mar 3rd, '22, 15:04
by Amberjack
Tony Meola wrote: Mar 1st, '22, 22:06 Doug

Is that a Good Winch? They are the ones I was talking too. He is local in NJ and has an excellent reputation. I was not crazy over his roller and was not sure of the look.

By the way, sorry for taking the thread off track, and thank you for the replies.
I agree Tony, this should be a separate topic.