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Mr. Cool heat exchangers
Posted: Apr 21st, '18, 22:55
by Tony Meola
I need to change one of my transmission coolers. I came across Mr. Cool's website. I was wondering if anyone has any experience with his coolers or heat exchsngers.
Re: Mr. Cool heat exchangers
Posted: Apr 22nd, '18, 02:05
by Charlie J
https://lencoheatexchangers.com/
tony I have used lenco in the past
very good
Re: Mr. Cool heat exchangers
Posted: Apr 22nd, '18, 06:11
by EarleyBird
Morning Gentlemen,for what it’s worth. As I said in a previous subject I pull my Cummins 5.9 BTA 270 HP out of the boat for some much needed TLC @ 4000hrs. Hydrostatically tested both heat exchangers and they failed. Was going to purchase after market H/E but found out and was told by two different Cummins Tech’s they won’t last. $700 vs.$1600. One is copper shell Cummins is Copper Nickel. Other parts also needed replacement, 5” stainless exhaust elbow, port, both drive couplers, rubbers are old,one belt tensioner, doing both, all hoses. I guess what I’m trying to say is although the after market items WILL work, there longevity will not be the same,or so I’m told. We go to far Offshore fishing, in our short season to be worrying about a casualty. Then out of Commission for a repair. Just my thoughts. Good Luck!
Re: Mr. Cool heat exchangers
Posted: Apr 22nd, '18, 07:47
by Bruce
Tony,
Too new to have used but according to the Web site they provide oem products at a discount.
Now given the used car salesman nomenclature that is the world today that could mean cheap replacement material coolers resembling oem coolers, or original equipment coolers sold discounted rather than go thru oem dealers.
We all know engine manufacturers, mariners and the such don't manufacture every product hung on an engine. I bought many an oem cooler thru my wholesalers rather than thru my manufacturers because the discount structure was better.
They were all made by the same company.
Some are proprietary and thus manufacturers can't provide product to any place other than an oem source so a company finds a place the reproduce them cheaply to beat oem prices.
I'd call Mr cool and find out just what they provide, oem at cheaper prices or cheaper remakes of oem coolers.
Re: Mr. Cool heat exchangers
Posted: Apr 22nd, '18, 22:53
by Tony Meola
Bruce
Thanks
I am looking for a trans cooler that has a zinc in them. The one I had to replace on the starboard engine came from the Cummins dealer but does not have a zinc. I want to replace the port side since I figure that is not be far behind. The Cummins dealer said he only sources what I put on in the fall.
Seaboard marine has them for twice the price. I was trying to locate a sen-dure but no luck.
I will also check on Lenco. Just can not believe Cummins does not put a zinc in them.
Re: Mr. Cool heat exchangers
Posted: Apr 22nd, '18, 22:59
by Tony Meola
Early bird
I agree with what you are saying, but it does not look like the Cummins trans cooler uus the better mouse trap. Just tough figuring out which one is.
Re: Mr. Cool heat exchangers
Posted: Apr 23rd, '18, 11:57
by Bruce
Tony,
Not all coolers will have zincs and you can actually over zinc an engine.
If your trans cooler has a good bond with the engine block, it will be protected by the other zincs. You can check that bond with an ohm meter or a bonding meter.
Re: Mr. Cool heat exchangers
Posted: Apr 23rd, '18, 20:47
by Tony Meola
Bruce
From what I can tell the cooler is not tied into the bonding system. There is no bonding wire and since everything else is isolated by the hoses I have to say that it sits out there on its own except for the bracket and since that is painted I would question that as a bonding point.
The only zinc in the 270 Cummins is in the heat exchanger.
Re: Mr. Cool heat exchangers
Posted: Apr 24th, '18, 06:42
by Bertramp
What Charlie said ......
LENCO
Re: Mr. Cool heat exchangers
Posted: Apr 24th, '18, 11:47
by Rawleigh
Lenco
Re: Mr. Cool heat exchangers
Posted: Apr 24th, '18, 21:38
by Tony Meola
I will give them a call in the morning. It looks like they make one with the zinc and in Cupro Nickle.
Re: Mr. Cool heat exchangers
Posted: Apr 25th, '18, 06:36
by Bertramp
and tell them that you are a member of B31 club.
The guys on LI will probably remember me.
Re: Mr. Cool heat exchangers
Posted: Apr 25th, '18, 19:31
by Tooeez
This thread made me think of a question: since the engines are the ground point for the 12v system they should be tied into the bonding system also. Does that mean the hull zincs will help protect the heat exchangers and other engine parts? (assuming there is a good metal to metal connection between the parts and the block)
Re: Mr. Cool heat exchangers
Posted: Apr 25th, '18, 21:16
by Tony Meola
Bertramp wrote:and tell them that you are a member of B31 club.
The guys on LI will probably remember me.
You sure they will not hang up on me. LOL
Re: Mr. Cool heat exchangers
Posted: Apr 25th, '18, 21:19
by Tony Meola
Tooeez wrote:This thread made me think of a question: since the engines are the ground point for the 12v system they should be tied into the bonding system also. Does that mean the hull zincs will help protect the heat exchangers and other engine parts? (assuming there is a good metal to metal connection between the parts and the block)
Tooeez
I have pondered that question, but I would say no. I say that because they tell us not to mix the new Aluminum Anodes with the Zinc Anodes. However when you think about it, no one seems to make an aluminum engine anode. So if it did, I would think the mixing would create a problem.
Re: Mr. Cool heat exchangers
Posted: Apr 26th, '18, 19:50
by Tooeez
Thanks, Tony, for giving it some thought. It's an interesting question; after all, if a mid-ship through-hull fitting can be protected by a hull zinc by being bonded, why not engine parts? Maybe it's because the thru-hull and zincs are in the same electrolyte (the seawater the boat is floating in), but the seawater in the engine is isolated from the water outside the hull.