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Replacing GPS and Sonar
Posted: Jun 5th, '17, 14:06
by PeterPalmieri
Hey guys hope all is well. Been so busy these days with the kids haven't had much time to post but I do keep up reading along.
In any case old electronics are shot. I want to flush mount on either side of the dash which restricts me to 7" displays. Thinking about a new pair of Raymrine Axiom 7s. Any thoughts?
Re: Replacing GPS and Sonar
Posted: Jun 6th, '17, 06:20
by Navatech
PeterPalmieri wrote:Hey guys hope all is well. Been so busy these days with the kids haven't had much time to post but I do keep up reading along.
In any case old electronics are shot. I want to flush mount on either side of the dash which restricts me to 7" displays. Thinking about a new pair of Raymrine Axiom 7s. Any thoughts?
When I saw the title of the thread I was going to say "have a look at the new Raymarine Axioms" so I guess I'm saying go check them out... Keep in mind that they're new on the market so there won't be much of actual long term user experience...
Re: Replacing GPS and Sonar
Posted: Jun 6th, '17, 09:44
by PeterPalmieri
A bunch of folks I trust are recommending the Garmin 742xs. Have to do my homework.
Re: Replacing GPS and Sonar
Posted: Jun 6th, '17, 10:33
by mike ohlstein
I saw the Garmin over the weekend. Awesome.
Re: Replacing GPS and Sonar
Posted: Jun 6th, '17, 15:33
by John F.
FWIW, I put Simrads on my B31. They've worked great.
Re: Replacing GPS and Sonar
Posted: Jun 8th, '17, 18:21
by bob lico
i removed all raymarine electronics,big job taking down that 4kw open array on extension ladder holding that monster over shoulders .went for my lungs convincing myself "this is your last dance" purchase Furuno (2) 12" nav-net T Z touch 2 displays ,digital/Doppler radar ,PG-700 smart heading sensor,cam-buss back bone and put it all together with ethernet hub 101. even went for the ethernet couple Fussion radio. what the hell i sold my other 67 corvette now i have only one. wife did not say a word! no motor cycles and no race corvettes feel like a mushroom in the garden!
Re: Replacing GPS and Sonar
Posted: Jun 8th, '17, 20:42
by Tony Meola
bob lico wrote:i removed all raymarine electronics,big job taking down that 4kw open array on extension ladder holding that monster over shoulders .went for my lungs convincing myself "this is your last dance" purchase Furuno (2) 12" nav-net T Z touch 2 displays ,digital/Doppler radar ,PG-700 smart heading sensor,cam-buss back bone and put it all together with ethernet hub 101. even went for the ethernet couple Fussion radio. what the hell i sold my other 67 corvette now i have only one. wife did not say a word! no motor cycles and no race corvettes feel like a mushroom in the garden!
Faruno has been always top of the line, but I hear Garmin is starting to give them a run for their money. Simrad used to be up there but has somehow lost its way.
Re: Replacing GPS and Sonar
Posted: Jun 9th, '17, 08:11
by bob lico
tony i had very expensive 1kw ray marine transducers needless to say much easier to upgrade my ray marine because Furuno transducer are 10 pin system and ray marine work on 7 pin .NYPD harbor tap me on the shoulder and said "60 years on the water captain in your whole life on the water did you ever see military,NYPD,FDNY,DEA,DEC,SCPD,NCPD marine ,and any other critical life saving or commercial boats ever have anything other then Furuno"---------------------sold
Re: Replacing GPS and Sonar
Posted: Jun 9th, '17, 10:58
by Navatech
bob lico wrote:tony i had very expensive 1kw ray marine transducers needless to say much easier to upgrade my ray marine because Furuno transducer are 10 pin system and ray marine work on 7 pin
There are ways to make a cross over connection...
bob lico wrote:NYPD harbor tap me on the shoulder and said "60 years on the water captain in your whole life on the water did you ever see military,NYPD,FDNY,DEA,DEC,SCPD,NCPD marine ,and any other critical life saving or commercial boats ever have anything other then Furuno"---------------------sold
The likes of the military, NYPD, FDNY, DEA, DEC and so forth have deep pockets... Commercial boats have a need for the high-end reliability and capability of Furono... However, these come with a pretty steep price tag...
Let's take computers for example... 99% of people don't need a workstation/server level of machine... Not even gamers!... Apple's newest professional desktop model comes in at over 4K!... Now, before you go into the "Apple is overpriced crap" mode you should note that a similarly tricked out PC/Windows based system comes in at less than 10% cheaper cost...
My point is that for the vast majority of us the "consumer" level of the products offered is quite reasonable in terms of value for money, reliability and capability... Now, if your life/livelihood depends on getting the best then go for it...
Re: Replacing GPS and Sonar
Posted: Jun 9th, '17, 12:25
by Amberjack
no motor cycles and no race corvettes feel like a mushroom in the garden!
Bob-
I bought my first boat--a 45' Shain Trimmership--years ago from an old timer who had used it a lot but finally aged out. About a month later when he wandered back down to the dock I asked him how he liked life without a boat. He told me "Doug, my wife put me to work in the garden. I'm walking around with Beauti-Bark in my pant cuffs!"
Re: Replacing GPS and Sonar
Posted: Jun 9th, '17, 22:14
by JP Dalik
Furuno tz or Simrad evo, neither will steer you wrong. Simrad is still the best pilot and interfacing simrad to simrad is very easy via nmea2k if your looking at expanding either system Furuno has better big radars but anything up to4kW is about equal, the had and 4g/halo stuff is great.
Good luck
Re: Replacing GPS and Sonar
Posted: Jun 13th, '17, 20:44
by PeterPalmieri
I decided to go with a pair of Garmins 742XS and then a 742 networked together. They'll be flush mounted and I can add the radar if I want down the road. I've got a a pair of 454s so it's not a canyon boat, I shore fishing and family fun trips. I won't need an auto pilot or night vision. And I'm going to use my existing transducer that I had put in with the foruno fishfinder so I won't have chirp or side scanning.
They all seem to be in the same price points what attracted me to the garmin was the easy to use software and that any of their radars interface with the unit from the smallest dome to open array. On my little boat I had ray marine and have been dealing with outdated stuff on the Bert for the last 7 years so anything is a real upgrade at this point.
Re: Replacing GPS and Sonar
Posted: Jun 24th, '17, 17:07
by PeterPalmieri
It's getting there. The plan is to get everything on the bridge where I want it and then worry about new panels. Ultimately I need the bridge to be painted. Almost 50 years of old holes.
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