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What can you tell me about this B26?

Posted: Feb 21st, '17, 17:47
by Oldcreek
(I just found the answer to my question. 1979 Fantasy Flybridge. Not a Bertram. Sorry to waste your time.)



Hi all, thanks in advance for any info!

In looking for a new project, I found this boat for sale.

It's listed as a '79 B26. It has features that I haven't seen on other B26s on the internet...
Raised deck, hard chine at rear sides, I/O placement, etc.

I assume it is not a Bertram?

What are your thoughts?

Thanks,

Wil

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Re: What can you tell me about this B26?

Posted: Feb 21st, '17, 18:23
by Craig Mac
100 % not a Bertram-----some of the lines are similar to an Allmand ----the spacing of the outdrives seems wrong-they are very far apart.

Re: What can you tell me about this B26?

Posted: Feb 21st, '17, 19:54
by Navatech
That doesn't look like a Bertram 26 to me...

Re: What can you tell me about this B26?

Posted: Feb 21st, '17, 21:46
by Oldcreek
Ironically, I JUST found a similar boat on Craigslist...

1975 Fantasy Flybridge

Sorry to waste your time...but now what do I do about the Bertram bug that bit me?!

Wil

Re: What can you tell me about this B26?

Posted: Feb 21st, '17, 21:50
by Tony Meola
It is either an Allmand or a Sea Bird.

The early Allmand, 60's and 70's were well built. Tough little boats if that is what it is. I believe you will see a bird emblem on the side if it is a Sea Bird. The Allmand said Allmand on the side of the cabin.

Some how I think Sea Bird and Allmand had a relationship at one time. I do know that Allmand went bankrupt. There is a company that is operating using the Allmand name to build and sell boats, from what I hear, it is not the same company no matter what they tell you.

One of the reasons Allmand went out of business is that when oil prices jumped in the 70's and other manufactures thinned out their hulls to cut costs, John Allmand refused to skimp and they priced themselves out of business.

Re: What can you tell me about this B26?

Posted: Feb 21st, '17, 21:52
by Tony Meola
Oldcreek wrote:Ironically, I JUST found a similar boat on Craigslist...

1975 Fantasy Flybridge

Sorry to waste your time...but now what do I do about the Bertram bug that bit me?!

Wil
Simple be like all the others on this board, buy the Allmand restore it and in the meantime find a bert, restore it and have two boats. It seems to be a disease that passes around our little group.

Re: What can you tell me about this B26?

Posted: Feb 22nd, '17, 03:38
by Navatech
Tony Meola wrote:Simple be like all the others on this board, buy the Allmand restore it and in the meantime find a bert, restore it and have two boats. It seems to be a disease that passes around our little group.
Boats are like rabbits... You can have one or many but never just two...

<grin>

Re: What can you tell me about this B26?

Posted: Feb 22nd, '17, 22:24
by Tony Meola
Navatech wrote:Boats are like rabbits... You can have one or many but never just two...<grin>
Nav

My wife makes sure the rabbit can't breed. LOL

Re: What can you tell me about this B26?

Posted: Feb 23rd, '17, 04:40
by Navatech
Tony Meola wrote:My wife makes sure the rabbit can't breed. LOL
I'm sure your Admiral is a formidable one... Having said that, did you miss out on the "birds & bees" talk?!... A single rabbit can't breed!... LOL...

Re: What can you tell me about this B26?

Posted: Feb 23rd, '17, 09:35
by Carl
If you do go with that boat...I think those are OMC outdrives.
Things may be different now...I recall them being pretty good units, but very hard to get parts for...and that was 35 years ago.

Re: What can you tell me about this B26?

Posted: Feb 23rd, '17, 22:47
by Tony Meola
Navatech wrote:I'm sure your Admiral is a formidable one... Having said that, did you miss out on the "birds & bees" talk?!... A single rabbit can't breed!... LOL...
Nav

I have not as yet met an Admiral that is not formidable. But as to the birds and bees, I sat in on that discussion. But for some reason when I put a Bird and Bee together in a closed in cage, it just did not go well. Never could quite figure out what went wrong. LOL

Re: What can you tell me about this B26?

Posted: Mar 1st, '17, 00:34
by Chanse
This is a B26

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Re: What can you tell me about this B26?

Posted: Mar 1st, '17, 06:24
by John F.
Nice looking B26. She looks ready to fish

Re: What can you tell me about this B26?

Posted: Mar 1st, '17, 21:27
by Chanse
John Yes, set up for Salmon. Lake Michigan, NE Wisconsin Door County, Washington Island and area. Unfortunately Salmon Fishing is seriously down.
Have owned and been fishing this boat 30 yrs this Season so no complaints. Actually many complements every season. I know you guys don't care for IO's
but they allow me to bring her into a small sheltered bay and moor her at my 100' dock. Sunset views with a Bertram in front of my home I consider myself
very fortunate.

Re: What can you tell me about this B26?

Posted: Mar 1st, '17, 21:51
by Tony Meola
Chanse

Nice looking 26. Shows what keeping a boat in fresh water can do for it.

We don't hate outdrives. Every system has it's place. It's the hanging of outboards off of a 31 FBC a lot of us have a problem with. If I had a 20 to 26 foot boat, I would consider outdrives. They are more economical to run than a shaft system, deliver more push since there is no angle like you get in a shaft drive boat.

Has the salmon run started yet? Don't think you are frozen in this year.

my B26?

Posted: Mar 2nd, '17, 00:03
by Chanse
Tony, Plenty of ice cubes floating around, still running the ice breaker car ferry. June would be early, Anyway I'm where water and boats move and fish jump, Fl until Apr.
Yep, having lived on the salt for a few years I truly appreciate fresh water.

Re: What can you tell me about this B26?

Posted: Mar 2nd, '17, 10:13
by Carl
Who hates outboards?

True, I don't want a chunk of alum hanging off the back of my boat IF I have an alternative. But can't beat the economy, simplicity, trailer-ability, ability to get in low water and maneuverability with them.

Outboards are nice too...they have a place, but I like to sit and look back behind my boat...whether just taking it all it, fishing or cruising, I don't want to sit and look back at motors. I also don't like they are not inboard in simplicity.

Re: What can you tell me about this B26?

Posted: Mar 2nd, '17, 11:08
by Navatech
Carl wrote:Who hates outboards?

True, I don't want a chunk of alum hanging off the back of my boat IF I have an alternative. But can't beat the economy, simplicity, trailer-ability, ability to get in low water and maneuverability with them.

Outboards are nice too...they have a place, but I like to sit and look back behind my boat...whether just taking it all it, fishing or cruising, I don't want to sit and look back at motors. I also don't like they are not inboard in simplicity.
IMHO outboards are real good for RHIB's, speed boats, ski boats and so forth... On a Bertram, not so good... No hate... I just don't like the looks... I'm also not a fan of gasoline onboard...