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Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Feb 25th, '15, 08:34
by Joseph Fikentscher
From a friend in Puerto Rico.
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Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Feb 25th, '15, 09:13
by Bertramp
I like !!
Is that just a combo swim platform/outboard bracket ?

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Feb 25th, '15, 10:10
by MarkS
Looks sharp! But a rear bulkhead? Like you don't have enough to hit your head on?

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Feb 25th, '15, 10:56
by Joseph Fikentscher
But a rear bulkhead?
I assume its nice to have AC in the PR heat.

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Feb 25th, '15, 11:14
by Dug
Wow! Beautiful!!!!

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Feb 25th, '15, 15:13
by Ironman
Hmm a 31 bert w/overboards

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Feb 25th, '15, 16:09
by jspiezio
That is a very nice rig.

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Feb 25th, '15, 22:48
by Tony Meola
Now that is a sweet looking 25.

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Feb 26th, '15, 11:01
by Carl
Classic lines meets present day style. He's got quite an eye for detail and proportions...

Very nicely done.

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Feb 26th, '15, 13:04
by TailhookTom
That is a beautiful example of a stylish update to more advanced technology. Air conditioning be damned, I'd have a lot of lumps on my head and I'm not that tall.

Tom

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Feb 26th, '15, 15:32
by CamB25
WOW! They completely redesigned the transom...looks like a euro-style transom that many boats are wearing these days. That's serious work!! Well done!

I would love to see more pictures of the transom/bracket if he has any!

Cam

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Feb 26th, '15, 16:44
by Joseph Fikentscher
I asked for more pictures. Hope he sends some. A Facebook friend. B25's in common!https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bertram- ... 2569721330

I wonder if you could extend the stern, reverse the engines and get a true inboard? Not VDrives??

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Feb 26th, '15, 16:48
by John Swick
Those are some big ass outboards....

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Feb 27th, '15, 00:23
by Navatech
Bertramp wrote:Is that just a combo swim platform/outboard bracket ?
I think that a lot of that has to do with providing additional buoyancy at the stern to offset the additional weight of the egg beaters...

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Feb 27th, '15, 11:49
by Bertramp
Makes sense, but how much more do they weigh than 6 cylinder GM blocks with outdrives, all mounted at the transom ? I think the outboards (at least 2 strokes) might weigh less.....

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Feb 27th, '15, 13:53
by Joseph Fikentscher
The stern extension looks to be molded/glassed on. it should provide some flotation for the weight being about 3-4 feet back. Turns the 25 into a small 28.

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Feb 27th, '15, 14:27
by CamB25
Based on the pictures, it appears to be a full hull extension. I wish I hadn't seen this...gives me bad ideas. Looks much cleaner, more integrated, than an Armstrong bracket. And allows the use of a transom door. Those inline 6 Verados weigh approximately 650 lbs each. About 150 lbs more (each) than a 6 cylinder ETEC.

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Feb 27th, '15, 21:50
by Navatech
Bertramp wrote:Makes sense, but how much more do they weigh than 6 cylinder GM blocks with outdrives, all mounted at the transom ? I think the outboards (at least 2 strokes) might weigh less.....
It's not just the weight... The position, specifically the distance from the CG (Center of Gravity) is important... Remember the old adage "Give me a fulcrum, and I shall move the world"?!...

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Feb 28th, '15, 15:09
by Yannis
Dos mi pan sto kai tan gan kinaso !!

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Feb 28th, '15, 15:13
by Navatech
Yannis wrote:Dos mi pan sto kai tan gan kinaso !!
Even Google Translate doesn't know what that means...

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Feb 28th, '15, 15:18
by Yannis
Give me where to stand and i'll move the earth ....

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Feb 28th, '15, 15:30
by Navatech
Yannis wrote:Give me where to stand and i'll move the earth ....
Otherwise known in English as "Give me a fulcrum, and I shall move the world"... There exist several translations to Archimedes' quote...

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Mar 5th, '15, 10:19
by Joseph Fikentscher
Here is another from PR.

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Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Mar 5th, '15, 11:54
by Bertramp
center console is nice ........ but like outboards more than IOs

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Mar 5th, '15, 12:04
by jspiezio
Very sweet again. I want a nicer leaning post on that CC.

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Mar 5th, '15, 12:16
by Bertramp
there was a company a few years back that specialized in doing 25 Bertram conversions to center console and I think outboard.

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Mar 5th, '15, 12:42
by CamB25
Everyone seems to wimp out when it comes to getting rid of the cabin during the conversion...I know why! :)

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Mar 5th, '15, 22:05
by Tony Meola
That is one sweet looking center console

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Mar 6th, '15, 11:15
by Olivier
very nice but no idea of its possibilities, speed, consumption, range, if one of you can answer, thanks
Olivier

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Mar 6th, '15, 12:20
by Joseph Fikentscher
For the Center Console I assume it would be about the same as the open model with twin 165 Mercruiser Outdrives, 14GPH at a 29MPH cruise with a range of 220. (From the Bertram25 Spec sheet).

For the Outboard Hardtop version I have asked for more detail and am awaiting a response.

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Mar 6th, '15, 13:31
by Olivier
Thanks Joseph

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Mar 7th, '15, 09:32
by Yannis
Cam,

Show us a few recent pics; we'll tell you how long it will take you till completion !
Cabin removal is a big project, hence time consuming!

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Mar 8th, '15, 20:28
by CamB25
ARRRRGH!!!!

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Mar 9th, '15, 09:08
by Joseph Fikentscher
This time a NorthWest B25. This is the one with the Yanmar diesels.

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Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Mar 11th, '15, 12:47
by JH_B28
Joseph,

Those are some nice B25's you posted there. Never seen em' here in PR.

Would love to see more pics and if possible more info on who worked on them. Even better to the see the first one in person.


Regards,

-G

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Mar 11th, '15, 17:45
by Rocket
The Georgia Belle is in my Yacht club in Vancouver BC and is as gorgeous in person. I have not met the owner yet, but will forward details if I ever do. I don't keep my boat there so don't go very often, but my son is in the racing program, so I will be there more often soon.

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Mar 12th, '15, 06:11
by Carl
Wow...pretty for sure.

But an awful lot of engine box in the cockpit...maybe just the angle of picture.
Only steering from up top?

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Mar 12th, '15, 10:16
by Rocket
There is steering from below as well, he has the standard sportfish configuration. He has modified the two piece engine box into a one piece, I assume he uses gas shocks to assist with lifting it, but I don't know. On that model you can walk around the engine box, it is not too bad and it is a nice place to sit facing forward or backwards.

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Mar 12th, '15, 14:27
by Joseph Fikentscher
Same engine box as mine but made to be one piece. Yanmar Diesels underneath, I think 180HP/side. Vdrives. Nice setup.

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Mar 12th, '15, 14:42
by STraenkle
I think Carl was pointing out that there does not appear to be any engine controls on the fly bridge, just a steering wheel. Hence Just steering on the fly bridge? It would make me nervous to not have engine control on the bridge.

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Mar 12th, '15, 15:03
by Joseph Fikentscher
I think it is a work in progress. Also since it is a northern boat I'm not sure how much steering goes on up on the bridge.

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Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Apr 5th, '15, 11:58
by Joseph Fikentscher
Scott,

I just saw a newer pic of the Georgia Belle and there are now controls in the bridge.

Joe

Re: Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Posted: Apr 6th, '15, 10:31
by Carl
STraenkle wrote:I think Carl was pointing out that there does not appear to be any engine controls on the fly bridge, just a steering wheel. Hence Just steering on the fly bridge? It would make me nervous to not have engine control on the bridge.

That's it in a nutshell.



I see controls have been added, didn't realize a work in progress.
I fought the temptation to drive from up top till I connected my controls...waiting on mechanic friend several weeks and finally ran them myself. As with every job...getting started seems to be the hardest part.