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Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Mar 7th, '21, 20:21
by micky
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Mar 13th, '21, 20:40
by micky
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Mar 13th, '21, 21:34
by DanielM
Looking good. Looks like you can start to see the light at the end of the tunnel.
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Mar 14th, '21, 10:10
by Carl
That is a big step forward.
Great to see it coming together for you and I can't wait to see the end results.
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Mar 14th, '21, 14:00
by micky
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Mar 28th, '21, 19:40
by micky
BAD NEWS!!!!!! Painter didn't come on friday neither saturday. On saturday at about 10:30am I sent him a text asking him if he was coming to which he replies...NO. I sent him a msg back telling him that we had an agreement that he would work on the boat friday, saturday and sunday and in the last 2 months there have been 5 times where he hasn't shown up and next friday he had told me already that he wasn't coming. That we needed to sit down and talk about it because I needed to finish the boat. Two minutes went by and he called me OUTRAGED asking me how I dare to send him a text like that, that he wasn't coming back and to get someone else to paint the boat and that I don't have to pay him anything. For the record, our agreement was that I would pay him when he finished the boat so I haven't given him a single dollar. He was coming today to get his tools and that didn't happen either.
So, when I hung up I started sanding, filling some pin holes and priming around the windows. Today spent 11 hours sanding everything that pas primed yesterday, finished fixing some limber holes on the deck support, sanded the back wall, etc. I thought I would finish and would prime next weekend but still need to sand the front visor, the front and back deck and the air intakes, so the plan is to do that on friday and prime from the rub rail up on saturday.
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Mar 28th, '21, 19:44
by Tony Meola
MIcky
Sometimes I think the paint and fiberglass guys inhaled too many fumes. I have yet to meet one that was not a Flake and some what unreliable.
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Mar 29th, '21, 06:21
by Carl
How dare you remind him what the agreement was, what were your thinking?? Oh you weren't thinking...
As someone who gets to deal with this all too often all I can offer is step back a bit and talk with the person. Find out why they have their back hairs up not wanting to complete the job. Why did they jump in and help on window project then just halt, could it be they feel they already put in way more hours then they think they will be compensated for? In a case like that its is sometimes better to cut ties, lose what was invested and walk away instead of getting deeper into it. Maybe break project into parts...modifications, prep and paint with payments at each step.
Just so you know, my success rate of this approach is not very good. But it is how I like to be treated...
But as Tony said...maybe he's just been breathing in too many fumes.
As a last thought about unreliable painters breathing in too many fumes...
Last marina I was in a guy hires someone to paint his trawler in the Spring. It's now Spring and weeks go by and nothing, guys don't show and do not return calls. So by summer he launching the boat. One day he walks down the dock and his boat is masked with paper and the guys were spraying primer on one side of the boat...in the water. I never got the details but I recall the rest of the season most of one side of his boat remained green prime.
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Mar 29th, '21, 07:08
by micky
My plan is to finish the primer myself and then paint the hull sides. After that is done, I need to sit down and think how I’m going to do the upper part and non-skid and I’ll pay someone to polish it.
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Mar 29th, '21, 07:20
by Yannis
The main reason, beside cost, why I will never change my boat is that I cannot go through the same issues again, deadlines not met, appointments burned, calls not returned, jobs done half way and wait for the other half,...
And, Carl, no, I am not Mary Poppins, I don’t give a flying damn about what they think and why they misunderstood and the like.
No one of them has ever thought any of that about me, why should I? And Im the client, you know, the one who is supposed to always be right!
Oh, the worst clan is the blacksmiths, the inox guys, they know that you don't have the tools and they blackmail you big time.
My naval architect cousin says it right: if you don't have it it cant break...his boat has one light, one manual head and I think one fresh water pump and one compass.
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Mar 29th, '21, 09:09
by Carl
Yannis wrote: ↑Mar 29th, '21, 07:20
And, Carl, no, I am not Mary Poppins, I don’t give a flying damn about what they think and why they misunderstood and the like.
No one of them has ever thought any of that about me, why should I? And Im the client, you know, the one who is supposed to always be right!
Yannis- - While I agree with you...sometimes I do whats needed to get the job done and over with.
Yannis wrote: ↑Mar 29th, '21, 07:20
My naval architect cousin says it right: if you don't have it it cant break...his boat has one light, one manual head and I think one fresh water pump and one compass.
I bought my boat from someone very like minded. VHF radio, compass, motors, hull running lights, horn and a manual bilge pump. He cut out the fresh water system painted over the fill and removing the tank. Removed the toilet, removed the shore power receptacle and cut the electric lines. One helm seat and two pole holders with one fighting chair. The icebox was used for storage. If it could break and wasn't needed it was removed...sorta.
Rear extra fuel tank he didn't want to carry extra fuel, especially not in the stern. He could not get tank out so he emptied, "shut" valve and painted over the fill. Only the valves must have leaked as when I went to remove it, the tank was full of old rancid fuel.
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Apr 2nd, '21, 17:59
by micky
Spent the day sanding from the rub rail up with 220 grit. Plan is to prime with 545 tomorrow. Pics tomorrow. New painter is coming on Sunday to see the boat and give me an estimate.
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Apr 2nd, '21, 18:25
by Carl
Crossing my fingers for you Micky...
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Apr 2nd, '21, 23:46
by Rocky
I know we do it all the time and it seems to work on a pleasure basis, but I was thinking when it comes to business, there is a danger of misconstrued words on the receiving end of this phone messaging thing. I have an otherwise good neighbor who I talk to and we get along great, but one day he said "how dare you say that"!
And it was a very innocent remark on my part that I thought "in good humor". So my point is always talk to the person or see in person with business arrangements. That's just been my experience, and sounds like Micky, yours lately too!
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Apr 3rd, '21, 06:22
by Yannis
You’re right.
After the 10th time, I kill these good approach methods.
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Apr 3rd, '21, 18:54
by micky
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Apr 3rd, '21, 19:19
by scenarioL113
If you gone this far doing it yourself than I dont see any reason you cant spray the final coat yourself...
Give it a shot! you obviously are not an average guy and are capable.
also
call the guy and tell him his tools are on the sidewalk and to get them before the garbage gets picked up on tuesday...
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Apr 4th, '21, 20:11
by micky
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Apr 9th, '21, 21:15
by micky
Went to work on the boat after work today, removed all the pipe work, grinded down all the places where it was attached to the hull and put fiberglass in all those areas. Tomorrow some sanding and awlfair. She looks weird without the pipe work.
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Apr 11th, '21, 17:26
by micky
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Apr 15th, '21, 19:15
by micky
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Apr 15th, '21, 20:44
by Tony Meola
She looks good. Did you shoot the paint? If you did, it looks like you hit perfectly.
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Apr 15th, '21, 21:40
by micky
It wasn’t me. I know my limits
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Apr 15th, '21, 22:28
by DanielM
Outstanding. Glad you’re getting to the shiny work. It looks nice.
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Apr 16th, '21, 05:19
by micky
Thanks
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Apr 16th, '21, 05:50
by Carl
Congratulations, that is one huge step forward!
Looking good, keep the updates coming.
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Apr 16th, '21, 20:28
by THESALTYSATO
Micky
It"s Medalla time .
Looks great
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Apr 17th, '21, 13:53
by micky
Finally went and saw the boat with my own eyes and with the paint dry. It looks BEAUTIFUL.
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Apr 22nd, '21, 19:58
by micky
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Apr 22nd, '21, 21:01
by Tony Meola
Holly cow she looks great.
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Apr 22nd, '21, 21:08
by scenarioL113
This baby is really coming along! Looking great
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Apr 23rd, '21, 07:34
by John F.
Beautiful. You clearly have a lot of talent. Congratulations
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Apr 24th, '21, 17:51
by micky
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: Apr 25th, '21, 19:50
by micky
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: May 8th, '21, 19:18
by micky
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: May 9th, '21, 15:49
by micky
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: May 12th, '21, 19:59
by micky
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: May 16th, '21, 16:41
by micky
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: May 22nd, '21, 18:10
by micky
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: May 23rd, '21, 15:45
by micky
Today sanded the swim platform, taped the edges, gave it 2 coats of paint and covered it with the nonskid sand. Also sanded the hatch and re-sprayed it.
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: May 23rd, '21, 21:02
by Yannis
Micky, beautiful.
The dogs, however, don't seem to be paying the appropriate attention!
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: May 24th, '21, 10:45
by micky
They were eating.
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: May 24th, '21, 20:59
by micky
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: May 25th, '21, 21:40
by micky
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: May 26th, '21, 20:44
by micky
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: May 27th, '21, 22:30
by micky
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: May 28th, '21, 20:28
by micky
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: May 29th, '21, 17:06
by micky
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: May 30th, '21, 20:14
by micky
Re: 1968 Hatteras 34 project
Posted: May 31st, '21, 19:09
by micky