B25 Upper Station Gauges and Wiring Question

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B25 Upper Station Gauges and Wiring Question

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The Upper station instrument panel and the gauges were quite corroded and last year I was having trouble with the tachs showing the correct RPMs. I believe there were grounding problems so I decided to clean things up a bit and rewire the panel.

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Also decided to paint the bezels and covering panel.

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Looks ok for now. New gauges and re-chroming will have to wait for next years budget. Dealing with a teardown and rebuild of the house after Sandy.

Now for my question. There are a set of keyed ignition switches at both the lower and upper stations. I alwways start and stop the engines and warm them up from the lower station. I have not even put the keys into the upper station as the pushbuttons worked to restart an engine if it failed. I would like to remove the upper station key switches but am not very good with electrics. Has anyone done this before and have a diagram or link that would help me visualize this? I am also looking for red covers for the ignition pushbuttons if anyone knows of a source.
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Sorry, Posted before saying thanks for any replies.


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Does anyone have a wiring diagram for the upper station on the B25?

When I disassembled my instrument panel, I labeled everything. Looks to me like I got it all back the right way but the Starboard gauges and engine ignition don't work so obviously I screwed something up. Man I hate electrical work. Just don't understand it.

Port seems to work ok.


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Joe look for a post from Peter. He is an old 25 man and is a fountain of knowledge in my opinion. You could PM him and ask. I have the same gauge cluster but don't have any upper key switches. Ground and green copper wire make my head hurt.
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Thanks Mark. I sent Peter a PM.
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I have a copy of the original owner manual for a 1972 25 if any one wants a copy. PM me and I will forward you a copy.
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lpd3 wrote:I’m trying to include pics of the rebuilt New Orleans Sport Fishing Camp at Port Eads and the diagram but cany figure out how to do it.
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Ipd3 - PM sent. Thanks
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When I turn the key for the starboard engine, absolutely nothing happens. If the solenoid is bad will the gauges power up anyway? Or does the power to the gauges go through the solenoid?
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Joseph,

The solenoid and gauges are independant. A solenoid is dpdt switch that allows low amp power to close the switch and complete the flow of high amp current between the battery and engine and is connected only to the ignition switch. Check your connections, especially grounds...
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Thanks Capt. I'll do that.
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Went out to the boat (in driveway) and cleaned the starboard engine ground. The battery side was cleaned a few days ago. We have ignition!!!!!

Thanks Capt., you're the best!

I would still like to eliminate the keyed switches on the bridge but maybe I should just let well enough alone. Although, I am trying to clean up the bridge station and fill holes from previous owner's electronics etc. Easier to do it all at once instead of piecemeal.

Putting in a new BigT helm and Steering Wheel and would like it to look less cluttered.

Thanks again,

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My Tachs still do not read properly. I am assuming that to test them I should run a wire from the Neg terminal on the coil to the S terminal on the tach?? Is that correct?
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