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Robert Wagner/Natalie Wood boat

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They showed some pics of the 55' sportfish that is the boat from which Natalie took her fall.
Any idea what kind of boat it was ? ... name was Splendor / Splendour
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Not real certain, but it looks alot like a Huckin's Fairform Flyer...
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Here's some more,the owner says it was "custom built" but no mention of the builder/details:

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/hawa ... shore.html

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Wow.. beautiful boat. It is a good thing nobody cluttered up the boat's lines with something as mundane as outriggers!
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Did anybody get to listen to Capt. Dennis Davern on his take.

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It looks a bit like a Burger to me.
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pretty boat!!
From the pics I saw from back then, it did have outriggers.
Is that an enclosed flyingbridge with an open one on top ? ..... cool
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Post by CaptPatrick »

OK, mystery solved...

Splendour is an Allen Quimby design and made by the, (now defunct), Bristol Boat Company of Bingham, Maine. Bristol Boats was a Allen Quimby Veneer Company subsidary in Bristol Maine.

Splendour is 60' and was built in 1960. The technique was cold molded plywood over an oak timber hull frame. Spendour's boat documentation can be seen at http://www.boatinfoworld.com/registration.asp?vn=294653
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Post by Chanse »

OK Capt you solved the mystery of the Boat.
Now can you solve the other mystery? the whodonit?
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thanks Cap'n ..... good looking boat
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Post by jspiezio »

Would look much better sans flybridge. It looks like an express design with the FB plopped on as an afterthought.
It also looks like a mid-century modern precursor to the now common "Euro" styling.
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Post by Carl »

Gotta love this Sandbox...

A cold case of a possible wrongful death opens up after 30 years...and we are more interested in the boat. LOL...good stuff.

I like the transom, cockpits nice...other then that not my kinda boat. Not the lavish looking yachts we see celebrities on today.
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I'm fixin' to start a "World's Ugliest Boat" contest here. During my sabbatical last week at the camp I was forced to pass by a moored Silverton "35 Motor Yacht" every morning on the way to the marina to get my paper. Damn thing is so ugly its impossible anyone designed it by accident that way.

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Post by Rawleigh »

My question is how could the two men in the saloon not know that she was exiting the boat unless she went out the forepeak hatch? It is not that big a boat!!
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as for the case....it really isn't that big of a boat. With circumstances that were "questionable", this should/could have been looked into a long time ago. Pretty sad if there was foul play
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Post by Chanse »

I agree should have could have. but wasn't.
Natalie was frightened of water. Never even went near there swiming pool at home. Her own mother predicted she would meet her death in the water. If she chose to disembark (which she did) it would have been a last ditch effort on her part to avoid a certain death. choosing a risk of death in the water instead. So what was the certain death? she was getting beat!
Yes a sizable boat but not that large for anyone else aboard not to
know everything that occured.
1st party, 2nd degree murder, Guilty. 2nd party Guilty as an accessory, 3rd party Guilty accessory.
Case Closed.
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I always thought the dam thing was a Yacht of 110ft or more, the way they talked about it. Can't see how they didn't miss her.

Who did, Rober, the Capt., Walkins or was there a butler on the boat? Hard to believe Wagner would have pushed her over or left her to drown, but when one is drunk, who knows.
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Many things are said and done when alcohol is involved, that later you realize made no sense.
That's why women get better looking as the night goes on !! :-D
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Bertramp wrote:Many things are said and done when alcohol is involved, that later you realize made no sense.
That's why women get better looking as the night goes on !! :-D

Those are some true words...

I know someone that is afraid to go in the ocean. Yet a few two many cocktails and he jumped off the boat...at night.

Not saying she jumped in...but maybe felt "Good Enough" to take the Dingy ashore.
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Post by Chanse »

Who really knows, but I certainly agree when adding
the booze factor in it becomes even more unknown.
OK, it's a tough crowd, how about 3%.

I don't think the boat complemented the gracefull
lines of Natalie. I find it somewhat hard on the eyes,
ugly? well nothing special, More like a swollen
ChrisCraft Catalina? hummm.
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I think the extra canvas covers make it look worse.
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Bertramp wrote:Many things are said and done when alcohol is involved, that later you realize made no sense.
That's why women get better looking as the night goes on !! :-D
My cousin can vouch for that comment. I wish I had pictures of the event. She could have passed for Andre the Giant.
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