Irradiated oysters?

[Bruce]

Government creating a problem where there is none again.

15 deaths a year from raw oysters, a joke in terms of numbers.

Saving people from themselves is job one at the US Government.

I for one will be angry if I'm not allowed to eat one of my favorite snot like consistancy hermaphrodite foods.



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33497583/ns ... _business/

NEW ORLEANS - Federal officials plan to ban sales of raw oysters harvested from the Gulf of Mexico unless the shellfish are treated to destroy potentially deadly bacteria — a requirement that opponents say could deprive diners of a delicacy cherished for generations.

The plan has also raised concern among oystermen that they could be pushed out of business.

The Gulf region supplies about two-thirds of U.S. oysters, and some people in the $500 million industry argue that the anti-bacterial procedures are too costly. They insist adequate measures are already being taken to battle germs, including increased refrigeration on oyster boats and warnings posted in restaurants.

About 15 people die each year in the United States from raw oysters infected with Vibrio vulnificus, which typically is found in warm coastal waters between April and October. Most of the deaths occur among people with weak immune systems caused by health problems like liver or kidney disease, cancer, diabetes, or AIDS.

"Seldom is the evidence on a food-safety problem and solution so unambiguous," Michael Taylor, a senior adviser at the Food and Drug Administration, told a shellfish conference in Manchester, N.H., earlier this month in announcing the policy change.

Some oyster sellers say the FDA rule smacks of government meddling. The sales ban would take effect in 2011 for oysters harvested in the Gulf during warm months.

"We have one man who's 97 years old, and he comes in here every week and gets his oyster fix, no matter what month it is," said Mark DeFelice, head chef at Pascal's Manale Restaurant in New Orleans. "There comes a time when we need to be responsible. Government doesn't need to be involved in this."

Treated oysters are "not as bright, the texture seems different," as raw, sasy Donald Link, head chef and owner of the Herbsaint Bar and Restaurant in New Orleans.

The anti-bacterial process treats oysters with a method similar to pasteurization, using mild heat, freezing temperatures, high pressure and low-dose gamma radiation.

But doing so "kills the taste, the texture," DeFelice said. "For our local connoisseurs, people who've grown up eating oysters all their lives, there's no comparison" between salty raw oysters and the treated kind.

A Gulf Coast oyster — or better still, a plate of a dozen oysters on the half-shell — is a delicacy savored for its salty, refreshing, slightly slimy taste. Some people add a drop of horseradish, lemon or hot sauce on top for extra zest.

Treated oysters are "not as bright, the texture seems different," said Donald Link, head chef and owner of the Herbsaint Bar and Restaurant in New Orleans.

"This is an area the government shouldn't meddle in," Link said. "What's next? They're going to tell us we can't eat our beef rare?"

Until the 1960s, raw oysters were rarely eaten in the summertime. (The old adage was never eat oysters in the months without an R in them.) But changes in harvest patterns and advances in refrigeration and post-harvest treatment have made the industry a year-round business. About three-fifths of the Gulf's oysters are harvested during the warm months.

The FDA is promoting a ban because high-risk groups are not heeding warnings about raw oysters, and millions of other people may not know they are vulnerable.

If federal officials require post-harvest treatment, they "will be ruining an industry that has been around for centuries," said Sal Sunseri, co-owner of P&J Oyster Co., a French Quarter oyster wholesaler.

"We've been doing this the same way since the 1920s," said his brother, Al Sunseri, as shuckers in rubber gloves worked their way through piles of raw oysters destined for oyster bars and restaurants. "We're located in the French Quarter. We're not going to get the permits we need to do post-harvest processing. We don't have the space for it."

In Plaquemines Parish, the Louisiana "boot" that juts into the Gulf south of New Orleans, 49-year-old oyster harvester Peter Vujnovich Jr. said the FDA was "totally out of its mind."

Croatian-Americans like him have been harvesting oysters for decades in the area's brackish bays and lakes. He said the ban added insult to injury after he spent tens of thousands of dollars upgrading his boats to meet recent refrigeration regulations.

The FDA contends treating oysters would not affect the taste and would save lives.

"Oysters that undergo post-harvest processing treatment will rarely pose a problem," Taylor said, "while those left untreated can have deadly consequences."

The FDA cited California as the best example. In 2003, California banned untreated Gulf Coast oysters and since then "the number of deaths dropped to zero." By comparison, between 1991 and 2001, 40 people died in California from the infection.

The rule would not affect oysters harvested outside the Gulf. Oysters are harvested up and down the West and East coasts, but the bacteria is not found in such high concentrations there.

Some in the industry, especially the handful of companies that have invested in high-tech treatment technology, praise the FDA plan.

John Tesvich of AmeriPure Processing Co. in Franklin, La., said the industry has "suffered from all the negative publicity" associated with Vibrio vulnificus. He said his oysters, which are treated in a warm bath, taste as good as any others. "We have thousands and thousands of satisfied customers."

But most of the oyster industry is worried.

Anita Grove, executive director of the Apalachicola Bay Chamber of Commerce in Florida, said a ban would be crushing. She said oyster harvesters, shuckers, truckers and dealers are "the backbone to our economy. It's always been that way."

Avery Bates, vice president of the Organized Seafood Association-Alabama, predicted two-thirds of Alabama's 50 "mom-and-pop oyster shops" would close, mostly because of the cost of treating oysters.

"We see more people die each year from peanuts, chicken, E. coli, beef," he said. "It's like singling out a certain section of the food industry."

[dougl33]

Geez, and I thought it was overkill because they're forcing the Health Care Bill through for only 15% of the population! 15 people is 0.00001%
of the population of 300,000,000.

[Carl]

Oh just tell them to do what a company did here years ago. That is set up a processing plant to Irradiate Clams. They had problems getting the equipment to work properly so they just hung a bunch of Black Lights and let the pumps run the water thru the troughs and called it a day.

They ran that way for some time till someone got sick and then all hell broke loose. Funny how the inspectors never realized the process wasn't quite up to snuff.

Govenrment just has to meddle in everyone business.

[In Memory of Vicroy]

Shuck 'em at night.

UV

[In Memory Walter K]

Going to ban the sale of Oysters, but cigarettes and liquor are OK? Where did they learn their math? Our government has gone nuts (oh, they're a problem too)....

[In Memory of Vicroy]

Big article in the local paper this morning...remember that raw oysters are a staple of Coonass life......a new lobbying organization has sprung up overnight....NOGO - National Organization for Good Oysters.......it will pass out pitchforks and organize marches on Washington to tell The Nanny State to just the F**K LEAVE US ALONE.....there are piles of oyster shells in the marshes here that are 10,000 years old that the indians left and eating oysters did not wipe out the human race.

Idiots....power corrupts.

UV

[Bruce]

You have to wonder is it because of the warm water in the Gulf or is there a lobbying arm of the Atlantic oyster growers looking to get a bigger share of the market and created a problem where there was none?

Since 1983 to 2007 in California there have only been 49 deaths related to the oyster toxins. Basically two a year.

The way things are done anymore I would't be surprised if this is more a money issue than a health issue based on the number of deaths. Nothing else makes sense.

Remember when Santorum wanted to get rid of NOAA in favor of Accuweather?

Look for the money trail.

[Rawleigh]

I think we should irradiate the balls of all politicians so that they cannot reproduce, thereby saving us from more of their kind!!

[IRGuy]

"I think we should irradiate the balls of all politicians so that they cannot reproduce, thereby saving us from more of their kind!!"

Won't work....very few have any!

[Rawleigh]

True, unless they are voting on raising their salaries and benefits.

[In Memory Walter K]

All this will do is cut down Oyster sales in a big way and the idiots will deem the program a success as less people would have been recorded as having gotten sick from them. To me, eating a radiated Oyster would be like having sex with a girl that glows in the dark...no thanks!

[dougl33]

Right. Then we can give the oyster farmers a bailout and/or pay them not to farm oysters.

[In Memory of Vicroy]

But there is a Coonass revolt going on over this and our White Boot people are up in arms...our senators and reps are raising hell with the FDA, so doubt it will happen. I tried to find a comparable "death causing" activity (15 dead people is a pretty low #) but can't find any stats that go that low....my yardman suggested dropping your pocket knife on your dick.....

They will have to take my raw oysters from my cold, dead hands....

UV

[Harv]

I wonder when they will ban peanuts for the small group that die due to peanut allergies? When is enough regulation, enough?? Maybe stinging insects and poisonous snakes will be regulated next?