BAYLISS--31 REFIT

Craig Mac · Post by **Craig Mac** » Sep 27th, '21, 07:35

I noticed on Facebook that Bayliss is working on a 31 refit----can't wait to see the final product.

John F. · Post by **John F.** » Sep 28th, '21, 05:55

I looked for it on their site and couldn't find it. If there's a link or they post pics, please post 'em up. I'd love to see what Bayliss does.

Carl · Post by **Carl** » Sep 28th, '21, 06:12

It's not on their site...at least not that I know of.

It is on their facebook page, I added a link below. As I am a dummy on Facebook all I can say is scroll down a bit and you should find a stripped down 31 Hull being worked on, flipped in a travel lifts straps. I looked to see if there was more Bertram stuff...but not sure how to find anything on facebook. But did get to look at their yacht builds...WoW incredible work.

What I find so impressive is the transom exhaust on these boats...not just Bayliss, but big Vikings, Garlingtons and...
A picture shot of transom does not do justice...it's a shot with someone standing next to see the true proportions...some of those you could just climb in. It is just something that gives me perspective on the size and speed, crazy how they cruise in the high 30knot range. Its like my house doing 40 mph...

https://www.facebook.com/baylissboatworks

Craig Mac · Post by **Craig Mac** » Sep 28th, '21, 14:40

It will be a flybridge and power will be 370 Cummins

Craig Mac · Post by **Craig Mac** » Jul 7th, '22, 08:14

From the Bayliss Boatworks July 2022 E-Bulletin

The 31' Bertram refit has been well underway for the past few months. Her cabin was replaced, she received flybridge modifications, and our crews have been working on her interior buildout. Our yard mechanical team supplied her with two Cummins 6BTA 370 engines with ZF gears, a Phasor 3.5 kW generator, a Seakeeper 3, and a 250-gallon fuel tank. She will be splashed later this month, bringing the project one step closer to completion.

A couple of pics were posted as well.

PeterPalmieri · Post by **PeterPalmieri** » Jul 14th, '22, 17:57

Where did they put the sea keeper?

Carl · Post by **Carl** » Jul 15th, '22, 08:14

PeterPalmieri wrote: ↑Jul 14th, '22, 17:57 Where did they put the sea keeper?

in the boat

trace elements · Post by **trace elements** » Jul 15th, '22, 09:02

Anybody know of anywhere they are documenting the rebuild? Knowing Bayliss it is going to end up being one of the highest end refits ever completed.

PeterPalmieri · Post by **PeterPalmieri** » Jul 20th, '22, 06:43

Carl wrote: ↑Jul 15th, '22, 08:14in the boat

Man and I thought maybe they kept it in the shed and connected to the boat via Bluetooth

scenarioL113 · Post by **scenarioL113** » Jul 20th, '22, 07:53

...where would the seakeeper fit?

They are installing a generator as well... I guess the gen could go outboard of one of the engines but that seakeeper has to be in the centerline of the boat

There is not that much room under the floor between the engines or in the cabin, right???

trace elements · Post by **trace elements** » Jul 20th, '22, 08:14

This boat has a seakeeper. I think they reduced fuel and put seakeeper in front of fuel tank. if you are doing better than 1.3 MPG, 180 gal is more than plenty for most. https://www.denisonyachtsales.com/yacht ... ia/8297993

scenarioL113 · Post by **scenarioL113** » Jul 20th, '22, 08:55

That is kind of what I was thinking as the only real way or place to fit one...

There is another 31 that was listed as having one and the vessel was name "BONDO JOE"... I saw it listed for sale on a google search but none of the old listings showed any pics and it was listed north of 200K...

If anyone knows that boat they may be able to show some pics of the seakeeper (if the listing was accurate)

trace elements · Post by **trace elements** » Jul 20th, '22, 08:57

A friend of mine works for seakeeper. An immediate concern he had was loosing fuel capacity to make space, and the adequacy of the stock stringers to resist the twist and stress induced by the seakeeper.

Tony Meola · Post by **Tony Meola** » Jul 20th, '22, 20:55

I would find 180 gallons a little light if you were running to the Canyons off of NJ.

A 1965 boat came through with a 175 gallon tank. This one is at 185. So they gained 10 gallons. You could also add a saddle tank or two to make up the difference. Or you could find space under the V berth for an extra easy 50 gallons. I know you can get 50 gallons in the space below the companiionway. In fact Bertram in the early days sold a 50 gallon tank that they made that fit in that area.

If you are rebuilding the boat, the stringers can be modified to take the torque of the sea keeper. I bet in 3 years there will be one small enough to fit up under the cabin floor.

scenarioL113 · Post by **scenarioL113** » Jul 22nd, '22, 07:10

Bayliss just posted some info and they are installing a 250 gal fuel tank. Looks like the seakeeper 3 will go in front of the tank as the pics showed a deck mock-up with a hatch right at the forward part of the cockpit floor. (I think it is a hatch for where the seakeeper 3 will go).

trace elements · Post by **trace elements** » Jul 22nd, '22, 09:44

Wonder where they got the fiberglass windshield frame from. Would like to go with that.

JeremyD · Post by **JeremyD** » Jul 22nd, '22, 14:10

Wonder where the exhaust is going?

scenarioL113 · Post by **scenarioL113** » Jul 22nd, '22, 21:20

Now that is a good question...

Tony Meola · Post by **Tony Meola** » Jul 22nd, '22, 22:39

Looks like the only place to run the exhaust is down the outboard stringers.

Carl · Post by **Carl** » Jul 23rd, '22, 08:19

Outboards?

Yannis · Post by **Yannis** » Jul 23rd, '22, 13:18

Or in the water directly below.

Craig Mac · Post by **Craig Mac** » Jul 24th, '22, 07:01

Per Bayliss---- Our yard mechanical team supplied her with two Cummins 6BTA 370 engines with ZF gears, a Phasor 3.5 kW generator, a Seakeeper 3, and a 250-gallon fuel tank.

scenarioL113 · Post by **scenarioL113** » Jul 25th, '22, 06:47

I guess they will make the cut-outs when the exhaust will be laid

CamB25 · Post by **CamB25** » Jul 25th, '22, 06:50

JeremyD wrote: ↑Jul 22nd, '22, 14:10 Wonder where the exhaust is going?

sidepipes. Will look like Bob's 'vette.

Raybo Marine NY · Post by **Raybo Marine NY** » Jul 25th, '22, 17:46

where is the 250 gallon tank going?

Tony Meola · Post by **Tony Meola** » Jul 25th, '22, 20:36

Raybo Marine NY wrote: ↑Jul 25th, '22, 17:46 where is the 250 gallon tank going?

I have a feeling that the fuel tank is right up against the rudder shelf. But I still think that is still not enough room for 250. If it is, it is tight.

Geebert · Post by **Geebert** » Jul 25th, '22, 21:31

I just assumed when i saw the wood over that area, that the tank was under the whole area.

Raybo Marine NY · Post by **Raybo Marine NY** » Jul 26th, '22, 06:03

I see the fuel sender, I wouldn’t think making it a t-shape would get the capacity up to 250 considering the height of the stringers. Interesting tank configuration.

1962 31 · Post by **1962 31** » Jul 26th, '22, 12:32

i made my tank longer and hold 240
still enough room for an accessible aft bilge pump

Raybo Marine NY · Post by **Raybo Marine NY** » Jul 27th, '22, 05:31

1962 31 wrote: ↑Jul 26th, '22, 12:32 i made my tank longer and hold 240
still enough room for an accessible aft bilge pump

And a seekeeper?

scenarioL113 · Post by **scenarioL113** » Jul 27th, '22, 19:55

I am thinking that they may have (or plan to) fabricated an integral fuel tank like Tony Athens did on "SHOOTER". The tank could then be literally built around the sea-keeper

Raybo Marine NY · Post by **Raybo Marine NY** » Jul 28th, '22, 04:41

Integral meaning fiberglass?
You can see the sender and 2 aluminum mounting tabs in the picture

scenarioL113 · Post by **scenarioL113** » Jul 28th, '22, 15:16

I mean something like this... credit sbmar for the photo

Raybo Marine NY · Post by **Raybo Marine NY** » Jul 29th, '22, 04:33

Zoom in, the blue tabs are aluminum . For that capacity I’m guessing it a T shaped tank that extends past the stringers.

Geebert · Post by **Geebert** » Jul 29th, '22, 11:46

Raybo Marine NY wrote: ↑Jul 29th, '22, 04:33 Zoom in, the blue tabs are aluminum . For that capacity I’m guessing it a T shaped tank that extends past the stringers.

Now you're on board.
However pointless it is to guess at what they're doing, im having fun playing along.

1)Observation of fact
2) postulation of possibilities
3) rebuttal of postulations
4) repeat step 2 and 3 until step 5 is achieved
5a) wallow in the glory of guesing correctly or
5b) wallow in the shame of guesing incorrectly

One more thing we need established is how are we going to find out what was actually done? Otherwise we're stuck in step 2 and 3 forever

scenarioL113 · Post by **scenarioL113** » Jul 29th, '22, 16:20

Raybo Marine NY wrote: ↑Jul 29th, '22, 04:33 Zoom in, the blue tabs are aluminum . For that capacity I’m guessing it a T shaped tank that extends past the stringers.

Hey Raybo....I hope you know that I am ALWAYS right............unless I am wrong...LOL

trace elements · Post by **trace elements** » Aug 1st, '22, 10:30

This is going to be a heavy boat, with a lot of weight aft.

trace elements · Post by **trace elements** » Mar 22nd, '23, 10:47

Not sure if any of you guys are on facebook, but here is a photo of the boat nearing completion. Check out the waterline at the transom. Like I said before, this is a heavy boat with a lot of weight aft.

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10 ... 4391590044

Yannis · Post by **Yannis** » Mar 22nd, '23, 18:12

It says...page has been removed.

trace elements · Post by **trace elements** » Mar 24th, '23, 09:29

https://imgur.com/a/Yy8jtNk Try this

Craig Mac · Post by **Craig Mac** » Mar 29th, '23, 17:15

https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A ... WGFVpQUHfM

blueeagletx · Post by **blueeagletx** » May 15th, '23, 20:12

Just finished up our maiden voyage on Blue Eagle to the Bahamas this past weekend. It was such an honor working on this special project with John Bayliss and the entire Bayliss Boatworks team, and is truly the fulfillment of a lifelong dream to finally own a 31'. I've admired them for almost 50 years, and they are as iconic a sport fishing boat as there is on the planet. Looking forward to many more adventures with the family in the coming years, and very proud to be a part of this community of passionate owners.

Brad Jones
Houston, TX

trace elements · Post by **trace elements** » May 16th, '23, 07:49

blueeagletx wrote: ↑May 15th, '23, 20:12 Just finished up our maiden voyage on Blue Eagle to the Bahamas this past weekend. It was such an honor working on this special project with John Bayliss and the entire Bayliss Boatworks team, and is truly the fulfillment of a lifelong dream to finally own a 31'. I've admired them for almost 50 years, and they are as iconic a sport fishing boat as there is on the planet. Looking forward to many more adventures with the family in the coming years, and very proud to be a part of this community of passionate owners.

Brad Jones
Houston, TX

She sure is pretty. Can you share some pictures from the rebuild and her finished?

blueeagletx · Post by **blueeagletx** » May 16th, '23, 19:53

Really appreciate it. I'm traveling this week, but will work on posting some photos as soon as I get back in town.

Tony Meola · Post by **Tony Meola** » May 16th, '23, 21:40

Best of luck with her. Looking forward to the pictures.

Craig Mac · Post by **Craig Mac** » May 17th, '23, 08:36

The Bayliss Facebook page posted a few pics

Raybo Marine NY · Post by **Raybo Marine NY** » May 17th, '23, 17:14

love the cabin layout, really pretty boat

blueeagletx · Post by **blueeagletx** » May 18th, '23, 05:17

Appreciate the kind words very much. I've always been inspired by this community or passionate Bertram owners and their projects, and am really grateful to finally have one of my own. Bayliss did post a nice summary on Facebook and Instagram (along with a few pics), and I'll add more once I get set up with a hosting platform and figure out how to post!

Carl · Post by **Carl** » May 18th, '23, 10:29

Wow, Top Shelf design and work on your boat!

I love how the boat looks so modern while holding true to the classic lines.

Best luck to you, Enjoy!

Carl

jalayo · Post by **jalayo** » Jun 19th, '23, 15:00

Congratulations! I really love the work that was put in to this design and retrofit. I'm getting ready to start mine next year and I was very inspired by your work. I would like to ask though how you came to a decision to remove the stand up head. Will this boat be running charters or will it be mostly a dayboat?