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B25 Restoration Videos

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http://www.totalboat.com/2019/04/05/boa ... he+Transom+

There is a series of these videos documenting his work on a B25 moppie.
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Hi Cam, I tried to pull up your video but a no-go; not sure if it's my computer or the operator.
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Go to YouTube and search for "boatworks today". And look at his recent videos. It's the same video series
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that guy is cleaning up a whole lot of messes. I'd rather work on a beat-up original boat than one that had been "renovated"

I hope my work is better than what I am seeing him re-doing.
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Wow... This hits so close to home!

Thanks for sharing this Cam.

It always great to find content relevant to Bertrams, especially 25s, but this is a jackpot!

I was compelled to sign up as a patreon for the extra 'bonus' content and to support his efforts since the Bertram project hit so close to home. Being a noob to a lot this, I have already learned a bunch from the first couple videos. I hear a lot of these terms from you guys on this forum, but watching videos and of these techniques applied to the same boat as mine really adds value to that knowledge.
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btw, I am not saying that the boatworks guy's work is bad, whomever rehabed the boat prior to him.........
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I've been watching his progress. Interesting. Always looking for new ideas.
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Hows the rigging going? Any new pictures?

You have to be getting close!
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Close - er!

Rigging is more difficult than I expected. Everything is "custom" and requires standing on my head. I warm up by playing Twister! :-D

It will get wet this year!

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Cam,

I need more pics than that for inspiration. With all the high quality work you've put into the boat, I'm guessing there is quite a bit of "BLING" getting ready to go on her, lets see some of it.

I only need a small amount of convincing in order to change my mind and blow my budget.

Are the rod holders in the transom 0 degree? If so are they swivels? I have lees for my side holders and am thinking of putting heavy duty swivels in the transom. I've also thought about putting a set of rod holders forward of where your mid ship cleats are facing 45 degrees forward that way I could drift and have 4 rods out on one side.
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Looks amazing. That splashwell and transom is a work of art.
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Ha! That's an older picture but it's all I have for now. The rod holders are in, windshield is on, etc. Most of my work now is below deck.

Rod holders: I made custom fiberglass backing plates for these instead of using the Lee's plates because I had some tight spots and I had the fiberglass sheets lying around. I am no expert on rod holders, but I asked a few people about how to design the arrangement (no swivels, just pins). I haven't fished in a while...building boat, maintaining two houses and building a third. Everyone needs at least three houses, right? Insane.

transom - 15 degree, straight aft
next set - 15 degree, angled out maybe 15- 20 degrees
forward set - 30 degree, angled out maybe 45 degrees.

I have 2 rod holders that fit into the top of the seat base (not shown). These are 0 degree, but the mounting surface is pitched aft 15 degrees. I figured these would be used for rigging/baiting.

Jack plate works now. Engine goes up and down! Woo Hoo!
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Looks so sweet Cam! Would never have believed it wasn’t intended that way from the factory.
Are you intentionally limiting us to teasers? Getting hungry for more pics...
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another question on the rod holders... did you leave the wood underneath the gunnels which was there to take the melamine cockpit panels?
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ktm_2000 wrote:another question on the rod holders... did you leave the wood underneath the gunnels which was there to take the melamine cockpit panels?
No. every piece of wood was removed. Years ago I inverted the cap and laid up 1708 on the underside, and reinforced the areas that support the cleats. It's all glass everywhere aft of the fuel fills, except on the coaming area.
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Cam-

She looks fantastic. Looking forward to seeing her on the Bay.

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Beautiful, Cam; you are to be commended for your diligence and attention to detail. I can't wait to go for a ride!
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Are the interior hullsides (under the gunwales) new fiberglass inserts or did you glass, fair and paint on the original Bertram glass? It looks great
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Ttownthomas wrote:Are the interior hullsides (under the gunwales) new fiberglass inserts or did you glass, fair and paint on the original Bertram glass? It looks great
Thanks. Filled and faired the woven roving. I needed to add some additional torture to my life.
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what do you think of the guy's video where he reinforced the hull side to transom joint? is it needed?
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With twins, maybe? Years ago someone on the B25 board installed twins on a bracket and added a stiffening element that tied the transom to the hull sides in one continuous reinforcement. It worked well.

With my "transom module" I have essentially tied everything together as one piece- hullsides, transom, deck
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CamB25 wrote: Thanks. Filled and faired the woven roving. I needed to add some additional torture to my life.
Did you laminate chop strand onto it first? Or fair right over the roving?
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Most of it was brute force with epoxy fairing compounds, but I did use some 2oz cloth forward of the gas fills to see if that would cut down on the "fill, sand, repeat cycles", and it did. CSM would not work well, IMHO. I always thought it could be done quickly with vacuum bagging, but I don't have that equipment.

I did all of this with the cap off the boat. Here's a shot during one of the "prime, sand, repeat" cycles that come after the "fair, sand, repeat" cycles: https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/d7 ... OJ4C5AsBvO
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I'm going to take a crack at this on a somewhat small scale this year and try and fill the weave aft in the cockpit area so only 6' off the transom. My plan was to sand the existing inside hull just enough to give the resin something to grip on, from there a layer of 1708 + 1.5 oz mat. I was going to do it in vinelyester resin to cut costs. The thought process is that the 1708 would span most imperfections and the 1.5oz mat would fill the weave of the 1708 and give me something to sand down. Hopefully only a small amount of fairing compound afterwords.

I probably shouldn't mess with it at all this year --- scope creep but I think if the weather keeps up being cold I could burn a few nights sanding the inside hull for prep and then fit in the sides whenever I can. I've ordered my fuel tank but I am getting the run around on the actual completion and will have some extra time to mess with stuff.
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