Nicely done B25. Outboards.

Joseph Fikentscher · Post by **Joseph Fikentscher** » Feb 25th, '15, 08:34

From a friend in Puerto Rico.

Bertramp · Post by **Bertramp** » Feb 25th, '15, 09:13

I like !!
Is that just a combo swim platform/outboard bracket ?

MarkS · Post by **MarkS** » Feb 25th, '15, 10:10

Looks sharp! But a rear bulkhead? Like you don't have enough to hit your head on?

Joseph Fikentscher · Post by **Joseph Fikentscher** » Feb 25th, '15, 10:56

But a rear bulkhead?

I assume its nice to have AC in the PR heat.

Dug · Post by **Dug** » Feb 25th, '15, 11:14

Wow! Beautiful!!!!

Ironman · Post by **Ironman** » Feb 25th, '15, 15:13

Hmm a 31 bert w/overboards

jspiezio · Post by **jspiezio** » Feb 25th, '15, 16:09

That is a very nice rig.

Tony Meola · Post by **Tony Meola** » Feb 25th, '15, 22:48

Now that is a sweet looking 25.

Carl · Post by **Carl** » Feb 26th, '15, 11:01

Classic lines meets present day style. He's got quite an eye for detail and proportions...

Very nicely done.

TailhookTom · Post by **TailhookTom** » Feb 26th, '15, 13:04

That is a beautiful example of a stylish update to more advanced technology. Air conditioning be damned, I'd have a lot of lumps on my head and I'm not that tall.

Tom

CamB25 · Post by **CamB25** » Feb 26th, '15, 15:32

WOW! They completely redesigned the transom...looks like a euro-style transom that many boats are wearing these days. That's serious work!! Well done!

I would love to see more pictures of the transom/bracket if he has any!

Cam

Joseph Fikentscher · Post by **Joseph Fikentscher** » Feb 26th, '15, 16:44

I asked for more pictures. Hope he sends some. A Facebook friend. B25's in common!https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bertram- ... 2569721330

I wonder if you could extend the stern, reverse the engines and get a true inboard? Not VDrives??

John Swick · Post by **John Swick** » Feb 26th, '15, 16:48

Those are some big ass outboards....

Navatech · Post by **Navatech** » Feb 27th, '15, 00:23

Bertramp wrote:Is that just a combo swim platform/outboard bracket ?

I think that a lot of that has to do with providing additional buoyancy at the stern to offset the additional weight of the egg beaters...

Bertramp · Post by **Bertramp** » Feb 27th, '15, 11:49

Makes sense, but how much more do they weigh than 6 cylinder GM blocks with outdrives, all mounted at the transom ? I think the outboards (at least 2 strokes) might weigh less.....

Joseph Fikentscher · Post by **Joseph Fikentscher** » Feb 27th, '15, 13:53

The stern extension looks to be molded/glassed on. it should provide some flotation for the weight being about 3-4 feet back. Turns the 25 into a small 28.

CamB25 · Post by **CamB25** » Feb 27th, '15, 14:27

Based on the pictures, it appears to be a full hull extension. I wish I hadn't seen this...gives me bad ideas. Looks much cleaner, more integrated, than an Armstrong bracket. And allows the use of a transom door. Those inline 6 Verados weigh approximately 650 lbs each. About 150 lbs more (each) than a 6 cylinder ETEC.

Navatech · Post by **Navatech** » Feb 27th, '15, 21:50

Bertramp wrote:Makes sense, but how much more do they weigh than 6 cylinder GM blocks with outdrives, all mounted at the transom ? I think the outboards (at least 2 strokes) might weigh less.....

It's not just the weight... The position, specifically the distance from the CG (Center of Gravity) is important... Remember the old adage "Give me a fulcrum, and I shall move the world"?!...

Yannis · Post by **Yannis** » Feb 28th, '15, 15:09

Dos mi pan sto kai tan gan kinaso !!

Navatech · Post by **Navatech** » Feb 28th, '15, 15:13

Yannis wrote:Dos mi pan sto kai tan gan kinaso !!

Even Google Translate doesn't know what that means...

Yannis · Post by **Yannis** » Feb 28th, '15, 15:18

Give me where to stand and i'll move the earth ....

Navatech · Post by **Navatech** » Feb 28th, '15, 15:30

Yannis wrote:Give me where to stand and i'll move the earth ....

Otherwise known in English as "Give me a fulcrum, and I shall move the world"... There exist several translations to Archimedes' quote...

Joseph Fikentscher · Post by **Joseph Fikentscher** » Mar 5th, '15, 10:19

Here is another from PR.

Bertramp · Post by **Bertramp** » Mar 5th, '15, 11:54

center console is nice ........ but like outboards more than IOs

jspiezio · Post by **jspiezio** » Mar 5th, '15, 12:04

Very sweet again. I want a nicer leaning post on that CC.

Bertramp · Post by **Bertramp** » Mar 5th, '15, 12:16

there was a company a few years back that specialized in doing 25 Bertram conversions to center console and I think outboard.

CamB25 · Post by **CamB25** » Mar 5th, '15, 12:42

Everyone seems to wimp out when it comes to getting rid of the cabin during the conversion...I know why! :)

Tony Meola · Post by **Tony Meola** » Mar 5th, '15, 22:05

That is one sweet looking center console

Olivier · Post by **Olivier** » Mar 6th, '15, 11:15

very nice but no idea of its possibilities, speed, consumption, range, if one of you can answer, thanks
Olivier

Joseph Fikentscher · Post by **Joseph Fikentscher** » Mar 6th, '15, 12:20

For the Center Console I assume it would be about the same as the open model with twin 165 Mercruiser Outdrives, 14GPH at a 29MPH cruise with a range of 220. (From the Bertram25 Spec sheet).

For the Outboard Hardtop version I have asked for more detail and am awaiting a response.

Olivier · Post by **Olivier** » Mar 6th, '15, 13:31

Thanks Joseph

Yannis · Post by **Yannis** » Mar 7th, '15, 09:32

Cam,

Show us a few recent pics; we'll tell you how long it will take you till completion !
Cabin removal is a big project, hence time consuming!

CamB25 · Post by **CamB25** » Mar 8th, '15, 20:28

ARRRRGH!!!!

Joseph Fikentscher · Post by **Joseph Fikentscher** » Mar 9th, '15, 09:08

This time a NorthWest B25. This is the one with the Yanmar diesels.

JH_B28 · Post by **JH_B28** » Mar 11th, '15, 12:47

Joseph,

Those are some nice B25's you posted there. Never seen em' here in PR.

Would love to see more pics and if possible more info on who worked on them. Even better to the see the first one in person.

Regards,

-G

Rocket · Post by **Rocket** » Mar 11th, '15, 17:45

The Georgia Belle is in my Yacht club in Vancouver BC and is as gorgeous in person. I have not met the owner yet, but will forward details if I ever do. I don't keep my boat there so don't go very often, but my son is in the racing program, so I will be there more often soon.

Carl · Post by **Carl** » Mar 12th, '15, 06:11

Wow...pretty for sure.

But an awful lot of engine box in the cockpit...maybe just the angle of picture.
Only steering from up top?

Rocket · Post by **Rocket** » Mar 12th, '15, 10:16

There is steering from below as well, he has the standard sportfish configuration. He has modified the two piece engine box into a one piece, I assume he uses gas shocks to assist with lifting it, but I don't know. On that model you can walk around the engine box, it is not too bad and it is a nice place to sit facing forward or backwards.

Joseph Fikentscher · Post by **Joseph Fikentscher** » Mar 12th, '15, 14:27

Same engine box as mine but made to be one piece. Yanmar Diesels underneath, I think 180HP/side. Vdrives. Nice setup.

STraenkle · Post by **STraenkle** » Mar 12th, '15, 14:42

I think Carl was pointing out that there does not appear to be any engine controls on the fly bridge, just a steering wheel. Hence Just steering on the fly bridge? It would make me nervous to not have engine control on the bridge.

Joseph Fikentscher · Post by **Joseph Fikentscher** » Mar 12th, '15, 15:03

I think it is a work in progress. Also since it is a northern boat I'm not sure how much steering goes on up on the bridge.

Joseph Fikentscher · Post by **Joseph Fikentscher** » Apr 5th, '15, 11:58

Scott,

I just saw a newer pic of the Georgia Belle and there are now controls in the bridge.

Joe

Carl · Post by **Carl** » Apr 6th, '15, 10:31

STraenkle wrote:I think Carl was pointing out that there does not appear to be any engine controls on the fly bridge, just a steering wheel. Hence Just steering on the fly bridge? It would make me nervous to not have engine control on the bridge.

That's it in a nutshell.

I see controls have been added, didn't realize a work in progress.
I fought the temptation to drive from up top till I connected my controls...waiting on mechanic friend several weeks and finally ran them myself. As with every job...getting started seems to be the hardest part.