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Making it's debut appearance at The Vineyard...

http://www.ohlstein.us/pages/B20_Projec ... e%2013.htm
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Wow!!! I like!!!!
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Going to see Chiris' Baron this morning. Damned cool boats. Must be Bertrams.
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That is sweeeet. I haven't seen a blue baron before. Two questions:

1: Is the Baron hull the same as the reg. B20 hull, or has it been tweaked a bit?

2: What is the power in her?
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I don't know about the hull being any thicker, but so far I haven't found any foam in it. I haven't looked under the floor in the bow yet, but from the helm area back, there's nothing but fuel tank and engine compartment.

This boat has a Chevy 350 coupled to a velvet drive transmission, and a Stern Powr [sic] drive. The drive is sealed......meaning that there's no water intake or thru-hub exhaust. Cooling water is drawn through a thru-hull. The propeller has a solid hub and the drive is just filled with 90 weight gear oil.
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Yep, right now I've got the same set up in my moppie. A sealed up Volvo 280 outdrive with a 350 crate motor, through hull intake. Exhaust straight out the tramsom, makes for a great sound while underway- not stealthy by any means. What I was asking about the hull is, are they from the same mold? Identical? The Baron looks a little "sleeker" to me, maybe it's just the cap that throws me off... Lifting strakes seem... different somehow.
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I 99.99% certain that the B20 hull mold is identical regardless of the deck (Bahia Mar, Moppie, Baron, Sportsman) on top.

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Mike, Nice boat!! There's a boat similar to that at the yacht club where we are having dinner Sat. night. A friend of Scott's. If I remember right it was also blue, the power I think was Bravo 1 with a built 350. He will be around that weekend, what a photo session that will be. My wife just made a reservation to have our car over there, so what I was thinking, was for a Cod trip maybe Fri and the girls could team up with my wife for a day around the island, while we're offshore. What d ya think?? Mitch
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I just noticed what Patrick listed as your location, that's wrong !!!!!
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[quote=mohlstein]This boat has a Chevy 350 coupled to a velvet drive transmission, and a Stern Powr [sic] drive. The drive is sealed......meaning that there's no water intake or thru-hub exhaust. Cooling water is drawn through a thru-hull. The propeller has a solid hub and the drive is just filled with 90 weight gear oil.[/quote]

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This sounds like the same setup I have on my 26 Luhrs. Do you have other pics of the drive?
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Mike, that boat looks great, it is inspiring to see one that is not upside down in a shop half painted! Do you have any pictures of the bow hardware arrangement? would you mind emailing me some photos for reference? My baron was pretty well gutted, so I'm starting from scratch. Mine was full of foam from bow to stern, soaking wet. Thanks in advance,

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I'll try to get some more shots.....

This is the drive...

http://www.mareng.com.au/sterndrives.html
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Mike,
The boat looks great. Were the pic taken in NC?




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They were.
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I posted some pictures from today. Just click the link from the top post in this thread.
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Prof - that is a dead ass hansome boat. It be's you. Who's white hull B31 in the background of the last pix?

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I've met the guy but it was several years ago and I don't remember his name.
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Mike,

You've got a real classic beauty there, congratulations. Maybe I need to ship my Sportsman to you and let you work your magic on her. Where in NC were the pictures taken, and why didn't you let us know when you were in our neck of the woods? Look forward to seeing you in FLL.

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The way I got it is the way you see it. It came from the Kitty Hawk area but I only went as far as Deleware to pick it up.

I'm open to suggestion, but so far I'm thinking about painting her black and gray or tan and gray, with a round white number plate on the bow...
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Took a ride in Chris' Baron, NICE! His has what appears to be an original 327. Got 28.3 MPH at WOT, flat water, and smooooth! Damned near died in the heat, but worth it.
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28.3 MPH @ WOT with a 327?
I'd think it'd get up & go a lot better than that...
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you can not trust Mikey to get all things correct. One it was hot as hell and that was not wot. I still have not got all of it down and as an excuse will say there might be to much wheel. 15x15 I think some of the diam has to come out. But still it is new to me and is a lot of fun
Mike O did you get the original sales brouchure from the owner as he has one and I have tried to get a copy.
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I have it......

I'll try to make a good reproduction of it for you.
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Mike; Thanks, This will be great. I tried to get a copy from the owner but he did not come through. You de man. Have you had the Baron in the water and run it ?
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Mike:

Beautiful boat -- are you going for one in each size? If yes, I know a nice 54 for sale -- only powered with 12/71s so she is not fast, but a hell of a sea boat and she raise fish.

Congrats - how many Berts in the collection now?

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I have the 31 and two 20's. 71 feet of Bertram.......

Randall and I ran it yesterday. It has some old gas in it and it's having a few issues. Hopefully they're being addressed today. Of course....I'm afraid to put new gas in it.......
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its a great boat...when it ran good it showed alot of promise....we even took it out in the ocean through the inlet to see how that was....no problem...no surprise................today was a little different....went to the tails on a friends new 60 foot bertram....are we having fun yet?....i was ...although i was dissapointed it was so flat.....i wanted to plow through some 6 footers..................unbelieveable ride...beautiful appointments...SPEED......made it home in 2 hours cruising at 28-30...............and all at only 140 GPH...........we even caught a few fish
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Tommy,
The pictures look more like currituck than kitty hawk, But there are a lot of new street. I have been looking around for a project B20 or wellcraft 20. My wife can't believe that there was a B20 in kitty hawk and I didn't know it. Tommy hows the sportsman doing?
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Close....... Actually the pictures were taken in Moyock....
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Mike O, that's a sweet ride!!!

My B20 is gray and white, "Jabba Jaws" from shark river NJ, I've got the motor out being rebuilt and will probably do the transom and floor this winter. Now that the B35 basically works I can play with the toy 20.

I found mine at A/C and after a ride out the inlet and back I was hooked, boated, and filleted....

Some pictures can be found at http://mysite.verizon.net/dunker/ladyd/
at the bottom. not the scuppers are blow the waterline, ugh.

btw, Gary had his B20 BihiaMar at A/C this year and had redone the follor, looked stunning (it's Mazda powered...)

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the transom on mikes boat appears to be DRY...and it dosent look like theres any if little foam in the boat.....hey ..it could happen
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Capt. Frank,

Yep, Mike slipped into our own backyard and found a real classic; but it couldn't have gone to a better steward. As for my B-20 Sportsman, it's sitting in a friend's warehouse here in Raleigh "moth-balled" with the engine, outdrive and hardware removed. After re-doing two B-31s and two Boston Whalers over the past 7 years, I've run out of "get-up-and-go". The Sportsman project will have to wait for another day.

By the way, you and your family were missed at this years Bertram gathering at Harkers Island. The weather was pretty crummy, but we had a good time.

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Tommy,
For some reason the weather is always questionable that weekend, and this year was nothing new. We missed seeing eveyone.But there is always next year.
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Mike if you are able to make a good reproduction of the original sales brochure I would be very intersted as well. I have some good stuff to trade for it. email me if you need a shipping address.

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