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thanks for all the replies. went with a new set off the shelf of what I had from general prop in Bradenton FL on a referral from Coastal Prop in Wilmington. hopefully they are on ups as we speak. thanks again and now I have a 20Rx23 4 blade hytorq on my shelf if anyone is ever in need.

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I broke a shaft and my port prop went to the bottom saturday. I have hytorq 20 inch with a 23 pitch, 1.5 bore. It takes 6 weeks to get a new Michican (old hytorq). 2 shops in Morehead NC don't have anything on the shelf. Looking for some prop shops to find something in stock or to potentially buy a ...

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ditto. throwing it away. Thanks

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UPDATE:

went with a custom version of the stock elbows from Marine Manifold on LI. they were about $625 a side and very easy to work with. Thanks for the tip Whaler. Bill

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Bill - what you are saying has started to come to light in the last 24 hours. I have been in an email dialog with Tony for a month or so. It has taken me time to educate myself and get back and forth to the boat to get pics for him... i finally got him the last pics yesterday and this morning he is ...

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forgot to mention that I pulled the other side off and need 2.

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5.9 300's cummins # 3910894. 5 x 1.5

this guy will rebuild for $825 ea. I am leaning that way. anyone have any experience?

http://www.greenwatermarineexhaust.com/ ... mmins.html

nothing on ebay

other than that cummins list is $2600. I have found them new for $1900.

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Can anyone educate me on mixing elbows. I currently have stock but am in need of a new one. I have heard of some overstock deals out there as well as custom made options. Cummins list for one is $2600. Any sources for custom made or after market stock?

Thanks,

Bill

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Rawleigh, the way it was explained to me was. inside bar for normal or inside and outside bars for high performance but not outside only which was my setup.

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96708A 4
Used with power steering cylinder mounted on the port transom plate. Adjusts from
29 in.(737 mm) to 37‑1/2 in.(952 mm)
Fits 1983 and newer R/MR/Alpha One/Gen II and Bravo models, except D7.3

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I am getting this info from someone the guy who is doing the repower so bear with me. lpd3: what i have is the pump on the port side and the slave in the middle. if its not too much trouble, could you take a picture of what you have and let me show it to my guy? marks: the previous owner only had a ...

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New Mercury Mercruiser Quicksilver OEM Part # 96708A 4 DUAL TIE-BAR KIT

anyone have any suggestions on where this might be in stock. local dealer is $800 but not in stock. Ebay is $550 but say these are on national backorder. this is the last piece of the puzzle for a b25 repower.

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BH: doubt they are stock but dont know. i do know that the guy that did the installation has been around a long time and has a good reputation. that engine is 1991 and was backyard remanned in 2002 or 2003 so that turbo could be 20+ years old for all i know but at least 10 for sure. sounds like i de...

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thanks Pat. i will get geared up to do that and get on an annual program. i think i will take do an autopsy on this one and see where it takes me.

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the cummins guy took the clamps off the airsep and took it off the turbo and you could hear the magnitude of the whine double at about 1600 rpms. didnt see the soot on the cool side until we got the turbo off. at that point he said this is your problem. i remember you saying that and didnt know exac...

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Before letting someone else take the head cover off I bit the bullet and called Cummings Atlantic. They are 5 hours away and the labor and travel time is premium price. They basically told me that they never worry about compression or leakdown but just check crankcase pressure. Once i described my p...

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leak down test showed multiple valve issues although hopefully no noticeable leakage into the crank case. one cyl. showed no issues so we had a benchmark to look at the next couple against. stopped after the third cyl. looks like we are out for the season. going to pull the boat next week and take t...

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OK. put on the new injection pump and ran he boat this morning and............ worse than ever. less rpms and more smoke than before. to recap: compression high (maybe too high and not very uniform) back pressure ok fuel pressure ok fuel polished new filters boost read low but was same as other engi...

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Diesel shop says injection pump is worn out. they are saying $2500 to rebuild but i am thinking a new is about that also. checking around on prices, not sure if there are any aftermarket options but thought i would check with seaboard/athens. thoughts / suggestions are welcomed. BB

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man sorry to here about that line wrap. what did it take to get you back going?

i had some pretty dirty fuel earlier in the summer so maybe it is the injection pump. will updated when they get a look at it. why doesnt this ever happen after labor day when you have all winter to chase problems?

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No soot. No back pressure. No excessive crank case pressure. Injection pump coming off tomorrow.

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http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/yy325/wlblount/IMG_20140812_110409_222_zpsbhqecead.jpg http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/yy325/wlblount/IMG_20140812_110404_007_zpsobnzxokq.jpg i cant find any mention of an aneroid valve with the nippon denso pump Update: compression high (maybe too high) all ar...

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going to look at compression tomorrow and i will take a picture or two of the injection pump. i think its a nippon denso pump and am thinking that it might not have an aneroid valve. just figured that a logical step would be to eliminate cylinder and valve issues and if we do then it will pretty muc...

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JimmyG - already bought and installed them but they are eight something each from hightide. we all need to keep your set in mind next time someone needs a set.

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BH: the bad side turbo kicks in very early compared to the other side. imho it seems like engine is calling for the turbo as in it needs some help. or are you saying engine may be fine and not need turbo and the turbo is just kicking in early and needs to be adjusted via aneroid? bad side feels like...

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Terry - I am using Mike (L and M). You gave me his name a couple of years ago and i have been using him ever since. He is going to check compression on Tuesday.

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No. dropped and went with two marine techs and a diesel mechanic on board. techs seemed to be more concerned with packing adjustment, mechanic was checking boost. what should i be looking for now?

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went back in the water today with turbo boost meter in hand and sporting new struts. must be living right because boat performed almost like normal so i am thinking 70-80% if the engine issue was strut / cutlass related. looks like i had a nagging engine problem that the strut escalated to a larger ...

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I want to 2nd that. it was a great party and the food was unbelievable. Tom took it from parking lot to party in about 45 minutes. awesome feat to pull off. Thanks

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check. Hopefully the strut issue is resolved and we will be back in the water today to resume the black smoke chase with a boost test. see the other thread for updates there. the struts that high tide sells are made by algonquin. evidently high tide is the exclusive supplier since algonquin referred...

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Is anyone going to be around Thursday? Heading over this afternoon.... need an assignment. Bill

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Algonquin referred me to High tide Marine. The originals were 1 3/8 and evidently bored to 1 1/2 when converted to diesels. High Tide has a beefed up version more suited to 1 1/2 shafts. he said all the 31 struts were standard . thanks for the lead Pete. I have 2 on the way.

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holes at bottom on both have been partially flattened and will be too thin if re-bored. one is the original and the other has been replaced at some point. the original is cracked. this is my first cutlass bearing change and the shafts have always been slightly out of alignment one side is D564 the b...

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boat yard says for some reason my struts will not accept a change in cutlass bearings and i will need new ones. i know one is slightly damaged but a machine shop said they could not re-bore it. 1 and 1/2 inch shafts... one strut has a number on it. what do i need to do?

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Trying to finalize my travel plans. can anyone give me the schedule for the weekend if there is one? trying to get over to quogue to visit friends at some point during the weekend but didnt want to miss anything. also, do i need to contribute to the overhead? who is in charge of the money? thanks - ...

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you have to set up a photobucket account (or something similar). then it should be easy to use the link that they supply and the 'img' button here.

this explains it

http://bertram31.com/newbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3

do you have any pictures of the mothership with 'miss teak' in tow?

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thanks Marshall - hopefully be able to test the boost later next week and then i will have an idea. hoping its turbo related and not a top end rebuild but the way my luck has been running, who knows. just ready to get back in the water before i miss the whole summer. Bill

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and holy crap 1450 views in 3 days...

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OB31 - i really like the seat across the stern if you arent fishing. Is there a swim ladder on the bracket ? who did he work? and what kind of boat is the mothership?

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it turns out that upon inspection of the outside of the boat before putting back in after arthur, my struts are about to come off the boat. the backing plate was plywood coated with fiberglass and the plywood has rotted out but i guess thats another thread in itself. hopefully I will get back going ...

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and there was no oil in the aftercooler when we had it apart.

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Bob H: everything visually looks good, aneroid OK. Going back in the water from Arthur Fri. a.m. have a boost gauge lined up and if nothing there going to check compression. will report back

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Oops. Got it on the second read.

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Keith - i had problems with both the pumps on my boat when i bought it. Changed a couple of impellers within 75 hours on one and rebuilt the other. after i had problems with the rebuilt one i bit the bullet and bought 2 new sherwood pumps (should have consulted online first and i would not have boug...

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MM: it would be great to get that info. i am going to really go over all the turbo related hoses etc with a fine tooth comb when i put back in next week. if we still dont see anything, i think the $250 would be a reasonable investment at this point. I thought about trying to swap out a turbo tempora...

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I agree. from what i am seeing it seems like it would have to be an air issue from Tony Athens... This is where we start (a VISUAL of the exhaust leaving the vessel, under your normal operating conditions): If you are seeing any dark or black smoke during some or all of the operational RPM range, yo...

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OK. call seaboard on tuesday and got the after cooler inner core over-nited and the mechanic got it yesterday afternoon. put it on this morning and pulled out of the slip at noon just as the wind was starting to pick up. made it to my 1:00 haulout but guess what..... same symptoms. black smoke start...

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