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Hey John - Thanks for the reply & info!


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Do most restored b31s have an internally plumbed head or porta-potti? For those who have an internally plumbed head (not a porta-potti) on your b31s - what size is your waste holding tank? Do you have an external pump-out? As projects go - what's involved & the general cost to have a waste holding t...

Thanks Walter.


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JK,

Did you replace the fuel tank on SeaNile?

Is there any concern of not having a newer fuel tank on an old Bertram 31?


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~CLK

Please call me and I would be glad to have you down to my boat. It is in a boat house near West Seattle, I can show you anything you would like to see. My boat is basically new. It has rebuilt over the last few years, paint, power, wiring,cherry wood interior, head, yada yada yada, ya get the idea....

Again I want to thank everyone who's offered their time & advice in trying to help me out here - It's much appreciated. I've also spent quite a bit of time perusing the site, & it's a wonderful resource. This is a great community that you all have all created here! I'm going to take what I've gather...

Carl,

That's a pretty good take on why I'm here,... & reply to what I'm looking for - Thanks!


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Jack,

Thanks for the leads.

Are you a broker?


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coolair wrote:I know you can pay someone to do it, but I think it should be a right of passage or something, you should have to at least do it once, plus like someone else said, a 31 is a great DYI boat, thats part of the fun, i think at least

Fair enough.

Thanks for the input.


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CLK If you come during the next 6 months I can show you a B31, aground, 60 kms from water, surrounding with fruit trees and with pieces everywhere around her. This I can offer you. The ladies on the south (Algarve), welllllll... maybe we can work out something to distract my wife meanwhile. Thanks ...

I want to be nice.... If you want the sexiest boat on the lake get a 31 Bertram and leave them drooling, wishing that they could some day have a boat as cool as yours. Just my 2 cents. Thanks for being nice. I may get one, simply because I've always liked them & wanted one. That'd be good enough re...

Hi John - All good points. I know I'm in the minority here, but at 40 hours a year intended use, and alot of sitting, I don't understand the desire for diesels. They're more expensive to purchase, maintain (given a 40 hour use), get worked on, and without trolling valves you won't be able to slow tr...

="Buju]Thats a figure I've never had any desire to learn. It'd probably depress me, sometimes I like to remain blissfully unaware. So probably not very financially practical, huh? But obviously you enjoy it & money isn't everything to you. Same with me. Go on a trip, or fishing trip on a B31 like L...

I think you must do some helm on a B31 with diesels, normal and litle wind wave weather and, that belong to a guy that don't want to sell. I agree. There is one up here & I was told the guy is thinking about selling. I haven't seen the boat yet - it's kept in a boat house. I doubt the guy is a site...

coolair wrote:...oh and if you haven't sanded black(or blue, smerf) bottom paint, you are in for a treat!!

Not sure what's meant by that - care to expound?

Glad to hear your family enjoys the boat - hopefully, you'll get to fish it soon!


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Since you have other boats, you basically know what your annual costs should be, just assume this boat is a bit larger, .... Walter Thanks Walter. Just trying to do some research & due dilligence. As I've previously stated - I've never owned or maintained a vintage boat,... or a diesel powered boat...

In all honesty, there is nothing practical about your proposed use. Not in the true sense of the word. Doing do-nuts around a lake all day will never approach practicality. Right? I didn't say what I was doing was practical - only that, even if it was only doing dough-nuts around a lake all day, a ...

what part do you not understand about a 31 center console for 250,000 and no conparason plus the fact that jk has a very smart interior that would put the deal up and over the smartest mentality!!! Currently - I'm just trying to get an idea of what to expect in terms of maintenance costs. Generally...

Let's keep apples and oranges from being compared... Or omissions from not being counted. The annual cost of owning a boat in the water should include: All Expected Expenses other than the original cost of the boat, engines, generator, and other big ticket items, (these should be amortized over wha...

Hey John - Thanks for reply & cost breakdon. Would love to hear from any other owners, regarding generally; What it costs them annually to maintaine their B31s, sans moorage. I don't expect anything as detailed as what John offered, but appx what you've spent over the past 5-7 years, averaged out an...

I think, based on your parameters, you won't get by on anything under $8,000 and that's excluding mooring. If $8,000 per year is a feasible number, that's $2,000 per hour of use. And that doesn't even start the amoratization of your initial investment in the boat itself... Thanks for the reply & in...

If you dont use but 40 hours a year, that could cause some problems. Boats do better some times with more use, ie: power running through the wires, pumps running, electronics warmed up, engines running, turning the fuel over in the tank. Batteries like to get charged up. I agree. The situation is -...

I'd like to get an idea of what the general maintenace cost would be, on a restoted B31 FBC. I understand that's a general question - the answer of which depends on different variables. But for discussion sake, let's assume fairly new paint, electrical & rebuilt engines. The boat would be slipped in...

FWIW - If anyone reading this thread has a B31 for sale, or may want to sell - please feel free to pm me if it's something (based on what I've so far described) you think I might be interested in.

I'll keep any information I receive confidential.

TIA.


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BCBertie wrote:I own a 26' that's been in the area from Puget Sound north all of it's life, so let me offer a couple of things...

Thanks for the info - Good stuff to know!


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However, buying a B31 that's already done, and in turn key condition, far and away is the wisest decision you could make. Forget all the headaches that come with repowering, painting, fixing old problems like rotten wood in the bilges, replacing decks, etc. There is no way, in today's economic envi...

Sounds like gas engines would be sufficient. However, think I'd like to have diesels. Probably overkill - but so is having a B31 for how I plan to use it. Re: Cummins and Yanmars - For each, what's considered the 'best' hp choice for a B31?... or What's the most common/popular hp choice? Any thought...

It depends entirely on the use of the individual boat, and the upkeep to the finish. The boat would have any easy life - Fresh water day cruising & it would be well maintained. In terms of Awlgrip paint - How does it rank? Is it a high/low/average maintenance paint? What's the upkeep needed to main...

Hi Mike, How far might you cruise this boat? (so we can anticipate needed range) Not far. 95% of the time, the boat will stay on a large lake (Lk Washington, appx 22K acres). No long trips to the canyons or fishing grounds. Exclusively short day trips around the lake. How rough will the water usuall...

...use-ability is everything. a good restoration can be a fairly stock redo with newish diesels and new paint.... Let me quickly preface the following questions by stating that I've never owned a diesel powered boat. All of my boats have OB engines on them. Also, all of my boats have gel coat - not...

JK wrote:Chris,

I will call you tomorrow afternoon east coast time.

--JK

Sounds good. If I miss your call - leave a good time & # to get back to you.


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The Sea Nile surely falls into the category of an excellent restoration. In terms of 'pros & cons' - I see alot of 'pros' about the SeaNile. What, if any,are some of the 'cons' about the boat, or it's restoration? Not to put you, or anyone on the spot, but looking for objective feedback. I'd actual...

Poggy- We all have seen some boats that are "over the top" that in my personal opinion have been overimproved or had features you really don't need. I agree. I'm not looking for (as the kids like to say) a pimped out boat. I prefer great quality, tastefully done. The key is find a boat that has bee...

New to the site & happy I found it! I'm considering purchasing a restored Bertram 31 Flybridge Cruiser. I'm & boater & fisherman from Seatlle, Washignton. I have other boats which I use for fishing,... cruising,... & overnighters - but I'd like to own a classic Bertram 31, too. I'm not looking for a...