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The factory tank is Tabbed in and it’s also resting in bonding putty on a mostly raw plywood subfloor. Some more than others. You can design an aluminum tank that will bolt in and allow plenty of drainage, adding drainage fore and aft Even poorly made, raw aluminum tanks in less than ideal installat...

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what country do you live in and what fuel? here in the USA fuel tanks cannot be built into the boat itself. There are boats that are still built today that do this , how they get away with it I don't know ( never mind EPA requirements for fuel tanks in regards to emissions on new boat built). By bui...

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If you were to start measuring and comparing everything from one side to the other you’ll find they’re all different. The bridge is still fresh in my mind when you’re taping it for non skid and you see one side is different from the other. Such is the case with almost every boat that had plugs and m...

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I have, or had them, let me make sure we didn’t throw them out last winter when we cleaned the back shop

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That’s a good use of otherwise dead space for all that wiring

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The owner of the boat had posted here back when it was being built.
Have to wonder what new build is in progress?

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its for sale, they claim $1,500,000+ spent on the restoration
https://www.galatiyachts.com/yachts/det ... ertram/31/?

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Paint over epoxy yes

IN a mold gelcoat is what you want. You can then paint it or leave it in gelcoat when the part is out of the mold.

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Use regular gelcoat, it’ll be fine with epoxy resin.

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Pete a lot of boats have 12v vent windows, radar arches, even RVs. getting the parts wouldn’t be that bad and since the windows are already plastic even if you had to drill them wouldn’t be a big deal. Wires could be run behind the cabinets. Getting them to function properly may be the issue, I’m no...

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12v actuators make more sense. this way they not only hold them open but also keep them shut

I agree everything should be closed up when underway but not everyone likes to sit in a closed up cabin. I think gas struts will end up failing quickly if you ran the boat with them open

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I don’t think they’ll stay up when the boat is underway

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I would just use simple filler, if it makes you feel better use epoxy filler or jb weld on the really deep ones. It’s a wheel not
Under any load or holding up any weight.

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refinishing the original aluminum wheel is a bit of labor of love if its pitted.
First it needs to be blasted clean, high build epoxy primed.
Then likely a little bit of bodywork. Primed again, then painted and cleared.

its fairly simple work, just time consuming.

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The story I was told was that the windows were finished for each boat on the boat as it was made, not constructed beforehand. Which is another reason no window insert or prefabbed frames will just slide right into another boat.

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Those are hydraulic or electric lifts, not gas struts. Very nice pieces in all polished stainless steel. I see heavy single (and double) gas struts rip out all the time. The lifting force puts equal strain as you try to lower it. Angle brackets mounted to the edge rip off, mounts on the box rip off....

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https://www.integritymarinecorp.com/it/bertram-yachts Get in touch with Mark Demers: he is nice, kind and professional...they offer two different profiles suitable for the 31; one is more similar to the original aluminum rub rail in terms of shape and size, the other thinner. As far as I understood...

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Watch him do the CURVES, not curve

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Nothing made for these boats jumps right in, I believe their deck system is meant to be used in it’s entirety with the rest of the pieces and for a specific sized tank.

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Has anyone seen the Cabrera unit installed?
Who ended up with the mold?

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You could later on still put all switches into your navigation unit, but you do always want a regular hard wire for your manual bilge pump operation.
You added another bilge pump midship?

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after all this no matter what I would still want it exactly how I had planned.
Only thing worse than an extended project is rushing and omitting things to finish it quicker.

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You could also get a hinge with a removable pin. It just needs to fit on the box. The hinge I shown the box has to be all the way open to slide out. Otherwise sometimes what people do is mount one hinge facing one way and one the other (they’re sold left or right ) You then have to remove one hinge ...

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there's actually a lot of copies of this hinge floating around, someone in china is definitly making these under all different names whitecap, sea dog, and then just a ton of no names the box is only so thick and he has that old teak deck he loves , the boxes are also already painted inside and out....

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There’s a slightly more modern looking version of the classic take apart hinge. The main thing is they only release at full angle versus the others that you mount so they constantly vibrate towards the side to keep in place. They must be bolted so I would rather look at the hinge than nuts and washe...

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Also pressure wash and scrub the bottom real good with soap and water

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is the fabric white or light colored?
is the aluminum anodized, black, white?

maybe try putting some white stripe vinyl over the frame to see if it helps or solid fabric strip?

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my old boss had the perforated canvas on his 36 Trojan.
from across the way it looked like it had no front windows and from inside the boat you could see out perfectly clear

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Maybe perforated canvas like phifertex that snaps on. It allows you to see out and keeps some heat off. Maybe get a piece and just temporary fasten it to see if it works for you before having it made. It also offers some privacy if you have clear side windows https://www.sailrite.com/Product%20Image...

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A little more heat versus unobtainable windows that probably leak

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it comes down to how much of a project do you want for yourself and do you want to keep sliding side windows sliders- im not sure who makes those frames and one piece glass- you can make them from many kinds of materials, PVC, wood, coosa, etc and you can find somewhat drop in aluminum versions http...

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Pete I have a nice C-hawk sport cabin here suzuki df140, dual axle alum trailer.
be a great 2nd boat even when you get the bertram back up and running

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you can spray it with a fine aluminum/silver paint. just blend it out a few feet so its not so noticeable in that one area.
unless you find another used piece with the same patina or a new piece it will stand out just as much

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Happen to call today about getting a very specific rub rail truck freight, 3 20' sections- $900 for the truck freight alone. Rail is only $120 a piece.

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what did you decide?

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love the cabin layout, really pretty boat

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this is one of those things its best to obtain locally to avoid truck freight. If there are marinas around you there is likely a local distributor like Lewis , Seacoast/Mesco, Kellogg/Land and Sea, even Port Supply/West Marine. I buy 12' stainless in bulk from the same place Mark at Integrity buys i...

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While I don’t mind the look of that rail on a classic boat it may be a good time to replace the whole thing . For the 25 you can pick up PVC and stainless rail locally and should you damage a section later it’s more easily replaced. The stainless insert doesn’t scratch as easily as anodized aluminum...

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If it’s just 4’ I can send you some in a tube. Integrity does technically sell by the foot but there are minimums and they don’t manufacture aluminum rails. They don’t make the stainless they sell either they just offer it as a accompaniment to their rub rail line. They may have a similar profile bu...

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There’s pieces of that stuff floating around. New and used.
Getting it to you is expensive if you could find someone sitting on old stock willing to truck freight, and installing it not easy at all.

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Without quoting all the responses, the paint would be flexible, and I find a long stainless screw in the nozzle of a tube of caulking allows for good storage and easy removal (the screw) later on. Stick it in a fridge even better. A piece of wire or caulking saver also does good to make up large gaps

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5200 4200 is flexible.
Pettit anchor tech flexible
Seam sealer is flexible
3m 4000uv is flexible

All paintable and should be easy to get in your area

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Sorry to hear about your mom.

You’re good with a roller or brush right? Why not use a paintable sealant or even seam sealer and brush the sealant after it’s cured. A foam brush dabbed along the lines or a broad pinstripe brush works great for that

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For rolling I have found the industrial imron with griptex or alexseal equivalent (identical) to be easy to apply and easy to clean. Best part is should you want to recoat a few years down the road just clean and apply more. The TECHNIQUE non skid is rolled dictates how easy it is to clean and how i...

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A good countertop and kitchen bath supply company has many varieties of silicone, I have an actual sample card somewhere in my office

https://www.silco-inc.com/

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The beauty of the original and Capt. Pat’s design was the bubble lens combined with the wrap around design, and that is very hard to produce.

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There’s also a color called bertram white, I’ll see if I can put them side by side to compare with oyster white

Oyster white typically matches “old boat” whites which is what boats from the 70-80s have aged to. Like a bertram, mako, sea craft.

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Yes, and sometimes the deck supports as well

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finding a one stop shop that wont take 1+ years to complete the boat is going to be tough.
Cosmetics, wiring, repower, testing, final fit and finish- these things just consume large amounts of time and effort.

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Zoom in, the blue tabs are aluminum . For that capacity I’m guessing it a T shaped tank that extends past the stringers. https://www.greatlakesskipper.com/media/catalog/product/1/c/1cd12bef07499c5b64004c55b0309f38.jpg?optimize=low&bg-color=255,255,255&fit=bounds&height=700&width=700&canvas=700:700&d...

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