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Hi Mark, You make good points, especially about the smooth and consistent all the way back and making sure this doesn't leak. I hope it is smooth but it is definitely not consistent. One thing I didn't mention is that there is actually another stringer inside the hollow one, it is about 2" high and ...

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some good progress was made tonight!! I put the first deck panel in the boat along with the hatch cover so I could mark and fit the 2nd deck panel. I then created marks where the battery box bulkheads were and then cut out the opening for the bomar aluminum hatch which will cover the battery box. I'...

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Hi Mark, I may be interpreting your post incorrectly when it comes to PVC Pipe, but the white Plumbing stuff at Home depot is rigid and there would be no way to get that inside of the stringer. I was planning on using PVC Spa hose or the reinforced hose at west marine as I could pass an electrical s...

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it is all a set of decisions, one decision drives another. I moved the batteries from the stock location in order to get a larger fuel tank. It probably would have been easier to grow the fuel tank forward and move the cross bulkhead there than grow it to the stern and move the stock battery box. I ...

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Peter, I mostly do inshore striped bass fishing where I either drift live bait or troll wire line. I will be putting a set of swivel rod holders forward of the helm for extra coverage drifting or so I could put wire line out and snap the wire from the helm. for tuna, I either run an gun or troll for...

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My buddy sent me this link to a B25 CC on the hull truth https://www.thehulltruth.com/boats-sale-wanted/1036947-25-bertram-project-needs-complete-restoration.html?1036947=#post12940092 What do you think about the console placement within the boat? Personally I think it is a little too far back, I wi...

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Tony Meola - That is exactly what I am doing. Daniel, thanks for the comment, I've probably put too much effort into fairing under the deck. Yannis - the center stringer is hollow and there is more than enough room to run a pair of 1 1/2" Inner diameter hoses in them. The idea of having the macerato...

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Scot, I took your suggestion and ordered the Makita, will be here thurs /friday, just in time for me to sand the hull to deck joint with it.

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the heater did the trick and I was able to get the 3rd coat on tonight. I'm going to need a 4th coat in a couple places but for the most part it is looking pretty good.

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Here's a pic from the cabin of the boat looking to the stern https://photos.app.goo.gl/KRvqyAqthWFwLuZAA from foreground to background Fishboxes, drains will go on either side of the center stringer in back Battery boxes Fuel tank area - unpainted lastly old motorwell Here's a side view of the motor...

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I get it, to do what you suggest would require 2 pull out fishboxes and individual hatch openings on either side of the center stringer as traditionally done in the cockpit of a B31 or smaller fishbox inserts which go in to the one hatch I have. On my boat I tried to make use drop down portion of th...

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That is my goal, no blood in the bilge. keep it in the fishboxes and have it go out the macerator pump.

I've got to get this whole setup together by early next week so I can put my fuel tank in and glass down my deck next weekend. I'll post pics as I go.

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looks good Carl

when I gripe about sanding fiberglass for my project I look at what you are doing and say to myself, "bring on more sanding" because from the descriptions and pics, the work you are doing is way more complicated and precise than anything I am trying to accomplish.

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Tony,

Good point and I would expect that to occur. The last little bit would be a pain every time.

As an I/O, she was an A$$ dragger at rest so it wouldn't be an issue, getting up on plane would put the water backwards as well.

on the water at rest
https://photos.app.goo.gl/tPoUpz4XBPWfyozt8

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Yannis, It really isn't, I'm really trying my hardest to make it complicated and should step back and use the KISS principle (Keep It Simple Stupid) My issue is that I'm trying to use the inside of the hull bottom as a fishbox with no liner, it is giving me grief trying to get water out of there. If...

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I got the 2nd coat on the bilge tonight, the 1st coat of the paint sanded up to a fine dust with 220 on an electric DA. There was one spot where I had a drip near the corner of the lip of the fishbox storage area where the paint was a little rubbery, I moved away from that spot and did everywhere el...

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Cam, What I am ticked about is the time, I should have had my deck in by now and had 2-3 weeks of time to finish it and work on other items such as my doghouse before the weather gets to a point where I can't work with resins. If I get done painting the bilge this week and the rest of my deck panels...

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Cam, My fishboxes are going to be just aft of the cabin bulkheads, then the battery boxes, then the fuel tank. The fuel fill U shaped notch is just aft of the battery box. here's an older pic showing more of it, the wooden piece will be the backer board under the deck to bolt the front of the doghou...

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Hi All, I was planning on running the hoses from my fishboxes inside the center stringer. I had purchased 90 degree turned deck drains from gemlux and didn't expect the flange to be as small as it is. The flange is maybe only 1/2" on the sides of the back tube. Drawing of idea https://photos.app.goo...

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Yesterday afternoon was like deja vu........... I sanded out the epoxy primercoat, this time with 220 and it was cured out fine after 22hrs. I then vacuumed and solvent wiped the surface and mixed up some Interlux Bilge coat with some of their brushing thinner and painted away. I was done by 3pm and...

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I changed my mind and went with the 2 part primer. It started raining right after I got done. I'm glad I went with the 2 part. I'm not going to tempt fate and try to get anything else done and will go to the cape and spend some time with the wife and kids, will come home tomorrow afternoon and hopef...

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I sanded 3 more hours today after work, I think I've got 90% of the totalboat paint off but it is still not perfect. I'm going to sand a bit more tomorrow before painting. I'll get most of it but not all, the spots that are left will be the tight spots which I won't be able to get a tool in to clean...

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I've been thinking about this a bit, I will have to sand the deck to hull side connection soon which has a lot of curves and that type of tool would probably work out pretty good there. Is the harbor freight $35 1/2" wide cheap model worth trying out before plunking down a good amount of $ on the ob...

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years ago I did a lot of canyon fishing with a guy who's boat had enough range for Atlantis canyon but for veatch or hydro the reserve was not reasonable so not wanting to tempt fate we would use a 50 or so gallon bladder and would ride out and 2-3 miles short of the temp break or the edge we would ...

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Scott, here's how I deal with fiberglass dust....... I do almost all my work with full workboots, windpants and a long sleeve golfing windbreaker. To top it off, I use a dusk mask, and full face shield. I cut a hole in the shrinkwrap in the front of the boat and run a large window fan to move dust o...

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thanks Scot, I've seen the videos from Boatworks today. There has been several times which a tool like that would have come in handy. As for my project, I put a 500 watt halogen on the port side over last night then moved it to the starboard side during the day. When I got home from work I started s...

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Cam, your theory is probably correct but I find it hard to believe. If it is true they should tell folks to use some type of brushing thinner to give it more open time. I used 2 pints to cover most of the bilge where I used 2 quarts of the epoxy primer coat, so 50% less material went on, I didn't go...

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I cut the back out of the leaning post to put in a livewell and tested the fit, then fabricated a top piece for the livewell portion and filled one side with thickened resin and a piece of skin left over, then the other side with thickened resin and 1.5oz mat https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZAEUKJ43Zhx45P...

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also during the paint wait, I started building a leaning post made a jig, cut panels to size and ground off gelcoat where glass was to go https://photos.app.goo.gl/Yd5HDZK42ygTqfZU6 glassed inside https://photos.app.goo.gl/VkXeESVitVPGsmEt5 Ground off outside corners, then added thickened resin back...

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in waiting for the paint to cure so I could sand it out I worked on cutting out my deck and got the first deck piece cut to size then cut the hole for the hatch and installed the hatch frame in with vinylester bonding compound. rough fitting https://photos.app.goo.gl/Du8kexJsQX6T4P856 needed to cont...

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been getting more work done, hit a major roadblock but am trying to get around it. I finished fairing out the bilge areas and coated with interlux epoxy bilge coat then sanded it out to 120 grit paper, came out real good. fishbox https://photos.app.goo.gl/WpPuuZU4zMwU163P6 motorwell https://photos.a...

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Why do anything which would rely on cell data to operate? My buddy has the Navionics app on his phone for tides/AIS info off some fishing charter boats and I seem to remember the app needs to have access to cell data to plot location, etc. No data = you've got GPS coordinates and would need to plot ...

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Sweet Ride!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I remember seeing your posts during the build. I'm not sure how many times I looked over the posts where you were building the bracket and thought about doing it to my B25 but came to the conclusion that I would F it up. You definitely have some skills there. It is amazing...

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Sweet pic - I like the last one the best

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I hear you on the pre-mix fairing compound. I've got a 5 gallon kit of the vinylester compound waiting for me for when I do the deck. I really want to get away from epoxy the 24 hr cure/wait time is a killer too. I did the battery box extensions with vinylester resin, glassed one side at night, next...

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Hobby? I don't know what to call it? Self-torture sessions, that works......... I can't wait to get out of the bilge so I'm not trying to position myself on some type of sloped area and turn myself into a pretzel to work. Some thoughts... I spend way too much time measuring and mixing resins, if I w...

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last piece, the transom is for the most flat, there are some areas that are 1/8" off but they are below the water line. it is ready to prime, I'm waiting on the internal areas to be done before priming it, in the mean time it is covered in plastic. I also decided this weekend to glass in the vent so...

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Fishbox is coming along well but slow too.

the fishbox has had 2 passes of fairing compound. This area has taken a lot of time as I'm 6'1" and don't fold up all that well to get into spots to sand

https://photos.app.goo.gl/mXsGteJ2tep2Yrnk7

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here's the work on the motor well I cut down the excess on the knee that I built then glassed it in and glassed the center stringer down with 4 layers of 1708 ( Cam, I heard you that the center stringer wasn't strong). In addition 2 plates were added in to have places for the bilge pumps to mount. T...

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I haven't posted in a while but have been making progress on the boat SLOWLY. I had a rough stretch where the family issues got in the way and we had to do some re-arranging of priorities... no fun work on the battery box: I have the battery box in and glassed, this took WAY more time than I anticip...

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wow - I didn't dig into it too much, the quotes I was getting were $3500-4000 for a mitusbishi installed.

at those prices I might attempt it myself as I've had a desire to try vacuum bagging a fiberglass part and could use the vacuum pump more than once.

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If the goal was to get the boat to run better at cruise, it seems that you've achieved your goal. It also seems like you achieved the goal of not having to trim up the motor as much to hit WOT. As for your top end performance, 1 mph loss is not bad to get better mid-range performance. It seems to me...

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I have a small vacation house near the beach which I have been using a 10,000 BTU window A/C to cool in the summer, the unit works fine to cool the house but is way too loud. I've considered a mini-split but when I got a quotes it was stupid $$$, essentially 2x the cost of the unit itself for instal...

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Cam,

I have no experience doing hvac so I'm of no help for you there, I'm pure out jealous of your new shop. I would love to have a place to work indoors.

The big question is, since you are almost done with the B25, what is going in that nice new shop?

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I sold the engines as a complete package.

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The ram is HC5332 model # BA135-7EM it is the stronger ram designed to be used without power steering. I have no idea what mfg or part number on the tie-bar. This is not a great pic for what you want showing how it installs in the boat but the best I could find.... https://photos.app.goo.gl/L3mXRH2N...

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I had sea-star hydraulic steering on my boat when I had I/Os. The system worked great, I never ran the boat with the original power steering system so I don't have anything to compare it to performance wise. The ram goes on the starboard motor pinched by the 2 large bolts and attaches to the tiller ...

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Ouch.... hopefully you are getting a day here or there to get out and runt the boat as is in the mean time.

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thank you all for your responses. Here's what I had for the pick-up side, sea-cock in the old hull drain location. https://photos.app.goo.gl/vFHqPVWm3LY17qn56 In the past I did a portable tank drained over the side, PITA Here's my thought on the drains for both livewell and my bilge pumps. https://p...

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I don't think you have enough wires in there

Did you do anything to label wires? I've seen a system where you print out a label and shrink wrap it onto the wire. I've never done it before as it seemed like a crazy amount of work but it looks real good when done.

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