31 Express on Ebay

Harry Babb · Post by **Harry Babb** » Aug 21st, '07, 21:38

A new listing is on Ebay for a 31 Express. From the photos it looks pretty good.

Anyone interested??????

Seems like a while back a couple of faithful made post expressing an interest in purchasing a 31........heres another chance to own a 31

Harry Babb

Harv · Post by **Harv** » Aug 21st, '07, 23:05

From the pictures she looks pretty decent. probably require an engine swap, and some touch up at the aluminum window frames at the very least. Other than that, she's a steal at the current $560 bid offer.

Jareb · Post by **Jareb** » Aug 22nd, '07, 07:02

Looks pretty good. Is the cockpit smaller on the express than on a FBC or is it just the look because of the helm location and difference in the engine boxes. I've never seen an express in person. Really wanted another FBC but this one might be a good deal
John

Capt. Mike Holmes · Post by **Capt. Mike Holmes** » Aug 22nd, '07, 07:52

The cabin and cockpit of the express are the same size as the FBC, but the wide open feeling is contained somewhat by the side things (Capt. Pat would know the proper term) that extend from the cabin area to the ends of the engine boxes. These also keep a lot of spray out of that area.

The FBC is the classic 31 Bertram, with the prettiest lines of any boat ever built, but the express has a lot of advantages, especially when running short handed, and the same legendary hull beneath it.

Harv · Post by **Harv** » Aug 22nd, '07, 08:03

Here's the link
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Bertram- ... otohosting

There is also a $149 processing fee added to the winning bid and *Winning bidder of this item will receive a free 3 day 2 night vacation package. This vacation package has a value up to $500 and will be sent out to all winning bidders when Boat Angel receives payment.

Capt. Mike Holmes · Post by **Capt. Mike Holmes** » Aug 22nd, '07, 08:36

Not a bad looking boat, a hardtop express, like Mikey's. Somebody spent some time and money on the interior, and the window frames, etc look original and in good shape.

Harry, did you look at the engine boxes? These are the "normal" express boxes, with hatches on top that are hinged in the middle. They are much heavier than FBC or Bahia Mar boxes, since the steering and companion seating are on top of them. This gives an elevated helm over a Bahia Mar.

If this boat wasn't so far from Texas, I'd make a run at it. Buying a new canal lot very soon with more frontage, room for two boats to tie up.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Aug 22nd, '07, 10:05

This express is in damn nice shape compared to mine at purchase. Window frames look very nice. Hard top is not original but appears sound. This would make a grerat project if purchased right. Love to know the hull number.

Capt. Mike Holmes · Post by **Capt. Mike Holmes** » Aug 22nd, '07, 10:17

MUCH better shape than mine was in!

nestorpr · Post by **nestorpr** » Aug 22nd, '07, 15:23

How much would this boat weigh??

Rawleigh · Post by **Rawleigh** » Aug 22nd, '07, 15:44

Wow, that might go cheap. And it's not that far away. It is just below Annapolis, MD. I wonder if Doug Knows about it?

Jareb · Post by **Jareb** » Aug 22nd, '07, 15:55

Rawleigh,
What would you consider cheap? Boat already has 21 bids in less than 24 hours- all for 50-100 bucks more than the last bid. I bet this one gets "sniped" at the end of the auction. It always makes me nervous when there is a feeding frenzy on an Ebay item!
John

Capt. Mike Holmes · Post by **Capt. Mike Holmes** » Aug 22nd, '07, 16:06

The 1961-62 expresses are heavy. Pete Fallon has weighed his 1961, with gas engines, and gets around 15,000. He estimated my '62, with diesels, genset, AC, etc, would go 16,000, loaded weight.

Bruce · Post by **Bruce** » Aug 22nd, '07, 20:40

I just put a bid on the boat. We'll see if my high sticks.

Brewster Minton · Post by **Brewster Minton** » Aug 23rd, '07, 06:59

that looks prime to redo

Mack · Post by **Mack** » Aug 23rd, '07, 10:15

A sailing buddy of mine keeps his boat a few slips away from this express. I took a quick look at it when I was over there earlier this year but did not get on board.

I would be glad to take a hard look at it for anyone with serious interest- just let me know.

randall · Post by **randall** » Aug 23rd, '07, 12:45

bruce....is that a joke?

Bruce · Post by **Bruce** » Aug 23rd, '07, 14:01

Harry Babb · Post by **Harry Babb** » Aug 23rd, '07, 20:58

Good evening Capt Mike

I did notice the engine boxes.............I'm sure that they have pluses but my favorite boxes are the one piece that when opened gives full access to all of the equipment.

This boat also has the original Bertram Bow Chock.

Tonight I am suffering with a kidney stone............It actually hit me Tuesday evening late.............

Any one have a miracle cure???

Harry Babb

Capt. Mike Holmes · Post by **Capt. Mike Holmes** » Aug 23rd, '07, 21:25

The one piece box definately has an advantage when total acess is needed. I modified my original express boxes so they rest on a frame and can be unsecured and moved completely out of the way fairly easily. Not as easy as yours, but better than they came from the factory.

No experience with kidney stones, hope to keep it that way, but hope yours gets better.

randall · Post by **randall** » Aug 23rd, '07, 23:08

well then good luck!!........thought you were the guy that was gonna drive inland till you got to a place where no one knew what a boat was....and live there

harry...ive had a few....morphine seems to work the best for me.....i'm not kidding....and drink a lot of water

Bruce · Post by **Bruce** » Aug 24th, '07, 05:44

thought you were the guy that was gonna drive inland till you got to a place where no one knew what a boat was....and live there

Repower and resale my friend.

randall · Post by **randall** » Aug 24th, '07, 08:30

i see....strictly business.........

Bruce · Post by **Bruce** » Aug 24th, '07, 15:02

Well if I get to use it a few times, that wouldn't be so bad.
I got a nice set of Steyers in mind for that project.

We'll see if I get outbid.

I have a set budget in mind and most likely some tard will come in at the last minute and outbid everyone else.

It's happend quite a bit to me.
I don't need anything so bad that I'll go nuts and over bid just to dance naked in the mirror upon winning the auction.

thuddddddd · Post by **thuddddddd** » Aug 24th, '07, 15:32

PLEASE, no more graphic descriptions like that. I'm going to have nightmares now. Only thing worse would be the surgon general in front of the mirror.

Bruce · Post by **Bruce** » Aug 24th, '07, 15:44

Ya know if the first thing that pops into your mind in a slang phrase like that is the actual image of a naked man, then I got to call HOMO on this one.

thuddddddd · Post by **thuddddddd** » Aug 24th, '07, 16:06

Calling homo, on me?? I'm not the one putting on the web that I dance nekked in front of a mirror when I win something................
Kinda reminds me of a vacation joke. Want me to tell it to you ???

Bruce · Post by **Bruce** » Aug 24th, '07, 16:36

I don't need anything so bad that I'll go nuts and over bid just to dance naked in the mirror upon winning the auction

Not me.

I was describing the type of person those Ebay over achievers are.

I guess if you thought of me, I should be flattered.

But your not my type, ya know that whole dangling participles thing.

Doug Crowther · Post by **Doug Crowther** » Aug 24th, '07, 17:09

Bruce,
Hopefully you are bidder #4. The boat is at most 15 mins away. I have never seen it out on the water around here but know where that marina is. I would be happy to go look at it for you or assist in anyway I can. Listing says it needs to be removed after the auction-ie first part of next week. I could move the whaler I never use & make room here at the house if need be. Its about 15-18 miles away by water so even if it needs towing its close.
My cell phone is 410-200-4386. Got my fingers crossed for you.

Timmy I noticed that shoot is sxs only. I'm not much with those old front rear trigger guns like my Smith- you got a single trigger sxs or can I be the non-conformist o/u guy. I'm siding with Bruce-you are starting to sound gay.

Capt. Mike Holmes · Post by **Capt. Mike Holmes** » Aug 24th, '07, 18:30

I'm also pulling for Bruce to get it, love to see it when he's finished.

Jareb · Post by **Jareb** » Aug 26th, '07, 18:32

Price is over 10K with a few hours left-not sure if I'll bid on this one-still want a FBC but this could be a deal
John

CaptPatrick · Post by **CaptPatrick** » Aug 26th, '07, 19:30

...but this could be a deal...

ANY B31, ANY model, for under $20K is a real good deal, (excluding those with structural damage of course).

Br,

Patrick

Tony Meola · Post by **Tony Meola** » Aug 26th, '07, 21:27

Harry

Good luck with the Kidney stones. Been there not fun. Try soaking in a hot tub of water. Some times if you can get the muscles to relax the stone will move and ease the pain. I am suprised you can even type. Tony Meola

Harv · Post by **Harv** » Aug 27th, '07, 06:16

Final price $10,501 to Bidder #1.
Grand larceny at it's best.

CaptPatrick · Post by **CaptPatrick** » Aug 27th, '07, 06:42

High bidder was one of the Becker & Cassidy crew,(one's who did the B31, Stars & Stripers), in S.E. Florida...

Rawleigh · Post by **Rawleigh** » Aug 27th, '07, 09:50

I guess its going to a good home anyway. Sorry Bruce!

Harv · Post by **Harv** » Aug 27th, '07, 11:15

CaptPatrick wrote:High bidder was one of the Becker & Cassidy crew,(one's who did the B31, Stars & Stripers), in S.E. Florida...

I guess the resale for this boat wil be in the 200k range when they finish.

Bruce · Post by **Bruce** » Aug 27th, '07, 17:32

Rawleigh,
I was trying to keep the purchase cost down so I could repower, cleanup and make the resale affordable to the average joe.

It wasn't meant to be on this one.

Rawleigh · Post by **Rawleigh** » Aug 28th, '07, 07:12

And I would have loved to see how a Steyr rebuild turned out in a B31!! How close is Stery to coming out with more than 250 HP?

Bruce · Post by **Bruce** » Aug 28th, '07, 07:16

A 280hp should be out soon. But the torque figures I'm seeing should equal that of the Yanmar 315.

Rawleigh · Post by **Rawleigh** » Aug 28th, '07, 07:27

Wow! That's what I'm looking for! Any idea on the price point? Is it a bigger block or the same size as the 250?

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