Awlgrip or Awlcraft clear coat

The Main Sand Box for bertram31.com

Moderators: CaptPatrick, mike ohlstein, Bruce

Awlgrip or Awlcraft clear coat

Postby JohnCranston » Feb 7th, '13, 23:16

Hey guys,
Has anyone used a clear coat over their Awlgrip or Awlcraft paint job? Any advantages or disadvantages?
Much thanks.
John.
I'll never ruin a $50 buzz with a $4 sandwich
User avatar
JohnCranston
Senior Member
 
Posts: 714
Joined: Jul 8th, '06, 17:50
Location: Spring, TX; Freeport TX

Re: Awlgrip or Awlcraft clear coat

Postby Buju » Feb 8th, '13, 05:59

Yes John, I have applied Awlcraft clear over Awlgrip, Awlcraft, and a few other polyester-urethanes and acrylic-urethanes.
Awlcraft clear is gin-clear- some other clears may slightly discolor the underlying paint.

As long as the prep is sufficient, and the application goes well it can add a good deal of "depth" to the paint. Also ads additional protection from abrasion, impact, etc.
That said, it can be a major PITA as well. Long term, down the road problems. Chipping, loosing transparency/discoloration from UV, etc.
I wouldn't do it unless the boat is going to be a dock queen.
If I remember correctly you've got a beautifully redone fighting lady yellow Bahia Mar... I'd leave the fork stuck in her.

Unless there is a specific reason you're considering it?
I don't know what the world may want,
But a good stiff drink it surely dont,
Think I'll go and fix myself...a tall one.
User avatar
Buju
Senior Member
 
Posts: 824
Joined: Jun 29th, '06, 09:11
Location: Key Largo, FL

Re: Awlgrip or Awlcraft clear coat

Postby IRGuy » Feb 8th, '13, 11:25

Whatever you decide to do.. DON'T apply any wax to AwlGrip or AwlCraft 2000. Not ever! Never!
Frank B
1983 Bertram 33 FBC "Phoenix"
--------------
You should live your life trying to be as good a person as your dog thinks you are!
IRGuy
Senior Member
 
Posts: 2064
Joined: Jun 29th, '06, 07:48
Location: Wilmington, NC

Re: Awlgrip or Awlcraft clear coat

Postby JP Dalik » Feb 8th, '13, 11:51

I've used the clear coat on our transom

It offered some protection to the name and base paint from the diesel soot and constant washing that takes place on the transom. When the clear begins to look shotty a simple wet sand through the clear and reshoot make the transom look like new again.

My only experience is on the transom and its been worthwhile
KR


JP
1977 RLDT "CHIMERA"
User avatar
JP Dalik
Senior Member
 
Posts: 1234
Joined: Jun 30th, '06, 21:03
Location: Pt. Pleasant NJ

Re: Awlgrip or Awlcraft clear coat

Postby JohnCranston » Feb 8th, '13, 15:28

Thanks for all of the great advice over the years. The canvas people are finishing up the Macrolon enclosure next week and then the painter is going to reshoot the hull sides when there's a break in the weather...we accumulated a couple of nice scratches over the years. A one year project turned into seven or so...everything else is done except for the survey and insurance. I wonder how the Yanmar people will treat the warranty after this long?
Thanks again.
John.
I'll never ruin a $50 buzz with a $4 sandwich
User avatar
JohnCranston
Senior Member
 
Posts: 714
Joined: Jul 8th, '06, 17:50
Location: Spring, TX; Freeport TX

Re: Awlgrip or Awlcraft clear coat

Postby CaptPatrick » Feb 8th, '13, 15:56

I wonder how the Yanmar people will treat the warranty after this long?

Forget it John... There is no potential warranty left to discuss with them. A two year stretch is about all they'll choak down.
Br,

Patrick

---------------------------------------------------

The only guarantied way to fail is by not trying...
User avatar
CaptPatrick
Founder/Admin
 
Posts: 4843
Joined: Jun 7th, '06, 14:25
Location: 834 Scott Dr., LLANO, TX 78643 - 325.248.0809 bertram31@bertram31.com

Re: Awlgrip or Awlcraft clear coat

Postby JohnCranston » Feb 8th, '13, 16:59

Capt Patrick,
Oh well...they sound good running from the garden hose...keep my fingers crossed. Just heard from the canvas lady...enclosure is done! Paint is next, then, upper station of tower lifted on...tower already rigged with quick disconnects for plug and play.
Almost there!
John.
I'll never ruin a $50 buzz with a $4 sandwich
User avatar
JohnCranston
Senior Member
 
Posts: 714
Joined: Jul 8th, '06, 17:50
Location: Spring, TX; Freeport TX

Re: Awlgrip or Awlcraft clear coat

Postby Charlie J » Feb 8th, '13, 18:00

hey john
how about some pics buddy
1968 hull # 316 - 757
User avatar
Charlie J
Senior Member
 
Posts: 1886
Joined: Jun 29th, '06, 09:14
Location: freeport n.y

Re: Awlgrip or Awlcraft clear coat

Postby JohnCranston » Feb 9th, '13, 12:26

Charlie,
Anything for you, pal. I'll get Pam to take some and post them next week. We completely redesigned the helm area and transom fish box...Promise not to laugh?
John.
I'll never ruin a $50 buzz with a $4 sandwich
User avatar
JohnCranston
Senior Member
 
Posts: 714
Joined: Jul 8th, '06, 17:50
Location: Spring, TX; Freeport TX

Re: Awlgrip or Awlcraft clear coat

Postby Charlie J » Feb 9th, '13, 13:05

i promise, looking forward to seeing them
1968 hull # 316 - 757
User avatar
Charlie J
Senior Member
 
Posts: 1886
Joined: Jun 29th, '06, 09:14
Location: freeport n.y

Re: Awlgrip or Awlcraft clear coat

Postby MarkS » Feb 9th, '13, 13:33

What say we have a sea trial party in March? Ill load up a bus ful of boys and head for your shack! Stock up on whiskey and ass wipe.
72 Bertram 25 FBC "Razorsharp" Hull #254-1849
Things of quality have no fear of time.

The beginning of change a PATRIOT is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. If his cause succeeds, timid join him for then it cost nothing to be a PATRIOT
User avatar
MarkS
Senior Member
 
Posts: 1528
Joined: Jun 29th, '06, 08:40
Location: The Frozen Tundra/EX-democratic stronghold Wisconsin

Re: Awlgrip or Awlcraft clear coat

Postby Mikey » Mar 1st, '13, 17:35

Back to the original question. I am preparing to repaint Dreamsicle's orange because the color went to hell. Awlcraft originally. It lasted about eight years and faded and spotted and basically pooped out. Awlgrip naturally claimed no responsibility but would cover the cost of the paint. Big of them, huh? Later they said that any color with red in it will fail. I had decided to repaint another color but my wife pointed out that the orange (which I love) had lasted that long and that I would be close to eighty by the time it happened again if it did happen, and probably wouldn't give a s#*t. So, orange it is. The painter I use has been shooting Awl Grip and Awl Craft for decades and suggested that clear may help slow the fade. Thoughts?
Also, what's the scoop on no wax. never heard that before. Does that include some of the new stuff like Rejex (sp)?
Mikey
3/18/1963 - -31-327 hardtop express
The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits.
-Albert Einstein
User avatar
Mikey
Senior Member
 
Posts: 1454
Joined: Jun 29th, '06, 10:12
Location: Irvington, VA

Re: Awlgrip or Awlcraft clear coat

Postby Kevin » Mar 1st, '13, 18:30

Yeah, I want to hear about the wax too. My awlgrip paint job was done in 2006 and the topside looks terrible. Hull looks ok so I suspected it was sun damage and bad prep work.....by me ofcourse.
User avatar
Kevin
Senior Member
 
Posts: 1017
Joined: Jul 2nd, '06, 19:29
Location: The Keys

Re: Awlgrip or Awlcraft clear coat

Postby Bob H. » Mar 1st, '13, 20:30

Im going Awlgrip, with clear over transom for the same reason JP noted, Kevin after the billion hours of prep and sanding I have logged rubbing down my 31 I hope the paint job lasts at least 10 years. I am convinced the many layers of 545 and high build primer helps to add years to any paint job. After each layer of priming and fairing I can see the finish shine through, like Bob Lico said in a post a while back there is a big difference between flat and smooth...Raybo showed how thats done..A lesson I have learned the hard way..I have a new found respect for the guys who shoot paint for a living... they earn every penny..should get to painting the hull by weeks end..fingers crossed...BH
1966 31 Bahia Mar #316-512....8 years later..Resolute is now a reality..Builder to Boater..205 hours on the clocks..enjoying every minute..time to slay some tuna..
User avatar
Bob H.
Senior Member
 
Posts: 1135
Joined: Jul 10th, '06, 19:49
Location: Rehoboth, Mass.

Re: Awlgrip or Awlcraft clear coat

Postby Goober » Mar 2nd, '13, 20:51

Need help on new window frames . Replacing rear bulkhead windows with teak frames I want to put a few coats of epoxy then rapid clear then wood finish clear. question is how do I thin epoxy to rub and cure 2to4 coats befor moving to next phase
Goober
 
Posts: 59
Joined: Oct 12th, '12, 19:15

Re: Awlgrip or Awlcraft clear coat

Postby CaptPatrick » Mar 2nd, '13, 20:56

Goober wrote:question is how do I thin epoxy

Thin epoxy only with denatured alcohol. A little goes a long way and don't exceed 10%...
Br,

Patrick

---------------------------------------------------

The only guarantied way to fail is by not trying...
User avatar
CaptPatrick
Founder/Admin
 
Posts: 4843
Joined: Jun 7th, '06, 14:25
Location: 834 Scott Dr., LLANO, TX 78643 - 325.248.0809 bertram31@bertram31.com

Re: Awlgrip or Awlcraft clear coat

Postby Goober » Mar 3rd, '13, 09:32

Your advice is as usual timely and wise Thanks BR goober
Goober
 
Posts: 59
Joined: Oct 12th, '12, 19:15


Return to General Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Bob Patton and 2 guests