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DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 13th, '17, 17:57
by Harry Babb
Off and on over the past couple of years I have been fiddling around trying to come up with an Instrument Panel Helm design that I liked. The first 4 attempt went into the "Burn Pile".....no big loss.... thanks to Luan and Hot Glue! !

The old original Bertram design was adequate but only functional at best. Seemed that no matter how hard I tried to seal the area water always leaked into the Head and soaked the toilet paper! ! ! ..... and also got into the ignition switches.

So anyway take a look at the finished product.


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Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 13th, '17, 19:46
by MarkS
Looks good Harry!

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 13th, '17, 23:18
by Tony Meola
Harry

How are you it has been a long time. You have been missed.

Panel look's great. How did you seal it so it does not leak? What material did you use to build it?

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 14th, '17, 10:42
by Stephan
Harry-
That looks great - very clean. Are there 6 bilge pumps??
Good to see your post, you have been missed.
Best,
Stephan

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 14th, '17, 12:34
by Carl
Looking good Harry!

Thats a job I always considered starting then decided maybe I should do something else instead.
The layout, the wiring...maybe this should go here, or maybe it's better there...

Nice work.

Carl

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 14th, '17, 18:50
by John F.
That looks great Harry. Congrats.

John

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 14th, '17, 19:34
by scot
Good to hear from you.. sounds like the Bertram gears in your head are turning again. Wish I could see the pics!! (need to update my photobucket account) I'm certain you have created something I need to use on mine.

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 14th, '17, 20:23
by Harry Babb
Thanks guys.....Its actually feeling pretty good to think soon I will be back on the water! !

Scot....its not your Photobucket account....its mine. Lot's has changed since I was active here in the "Sandbox"....photobucket being one of the changes....it was once free.

The basic structure is "Foam Board" (cannot remember the name of the material) and Fiber Glass......then installed and tabbed in with Epoxy and Glass. The instrument panel is completely glassed in...no penetrations....at all! ! The panel is aluminum painted with Hammerite to give it the Hammered look. The Wheel is the original Bertram Wheel, wrapped with 1/4" Twisted Black nylon.

And.....yuppppp! ! ! ...... there are 6 "Bilge Pumps"..... ya think I am a little spooked about excessive bilge water?????.... oh yeah! ! !

As soon as I can decide how to work around or with Photobucket I will repost the three pics above as well as more pics.

The instrument panel has been a fun project.....I'm very happy with the results

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 15th, '17, 02:10
by Yannis
Harry,
I can't see the pics either. Pity, because from your explanations they should be very interesting.

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 15th, '17, 04:38
by Lars
Dash looks great!

Yannis: PB pics don't embed in the post, but you can still see them on the PB site if you just click on the (missing) pictures.

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 15th, '17, 07:10
by Charlie J
cant pull up pics

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 15th, '17, 08:24
by Yannis
Lars,

It redirects me to the PB, but there are no pics.
As a matter of fact, there are all sorts of other pics, except for boat pics...

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 15th, '17, 09:02
by Carl
Charlie J wrote:cant pull up pics

I think Harry may have posted before PhotoBucket updated his account ths deleting the link/free service. Too bad, real nice pics that you guys are missing out on...



Harry- Here's a quick and EZ if you have a Dropbox account, place pics you want to post in there, Click the pic and choose share link, then copy to the post. Down side is the picture is not shown in the post it needs to be clicked...but it is EZ.

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 15th, '17, 09:20
by Lars
Or use Flickr. I do; works well for me. Others are using Imgur and are happy with that too.

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 15th, '17, 11:17
by Yannis
I use “hostingpics”.
With the ipad I can copy real pics to the B 31 site, with the laptop I can only copy the link, but I’m working on it...

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 15th, '17, 22:15
by Harry Babb
Okay.....I am trying "dropbox"........refer back to the first post on this thread to see the links

Please let me know if you guys can open the link to the pics.....I like embedded pics better but this is the best I can do so far! !

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 15th, '17, 22:26
by Tony Meola
Harry's pics were there last night. I guess his posting triggered something.

Harry take a look at this see if this helps:

http://bertram31.com/newbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13209

Raybo added something to chrome and firefox to make it work.

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 15th, '17, 22:48
by Harry Babb
Tony

The pics were there for only a few hours after I made the post.

The next morning Photobucket took them down because I did not have an account that allowed "Photo Sharing"

I'm not willing to pay Photobuckets rates for Pic Sharing

So, today I edited the original post....removing the links to the original pics that I posted

Then tonight, after reading Mike O's "Dropbox" suggestion, I created a "Dropbox" account and reposted pic links onto the original post via Dropbox.

My IPhone stores pics on the "Cloud"......I'm wondering if there is a way to use my IPhone Cloud to Embed pics onto our Sandbox Post??

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 16th, '17, 01:46
by Yannis
Now, it shows a padlock and chains...still no pics!

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 16th, '17, 08:35
by Harry Babb
Uhmmmmmmm!! ! !

Please bear with me! ! ! ......I'll get it figured out! ! !

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 16th, '17, 11:51
by Stephan
Harry-
If I can be of assistance and post those pictures please just let me know.
Regards,
Stephan

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 16th, '17, 14:37
by Carl
Harry-

In Dropbox-
Place pictures you wish to share.

Once pics are in Dropbox-

Find the pic you want to share and Right Click to open dialog box.

Under the "Share" heading you Click on "Share Dropbox Link" At this point the link has been copied to your clipboard.

Go to the Bertram Post and Paste the link. Activate screen- Right Click to open dialog box then choose Paste...or do a Ctrl V.

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 16th, '17, 14:50
by Charlie J
Yannis wrote:Now, it shows a padlock and chains...still no pics!
no whips

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 16th, '17, 15:54
by Yannis
Ha ha ha ha lol!! , excellent Charlie.

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 16th, '17, 20:57
by Harry Babb
Stephan

I would like to take you up on your offer to post the pics for me...

I sent them to you via the email address posted on your B31 profile

thanks

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 17th, '17, 14:00
by Harry Babb
I think I got it! ! !

Refer back to the original post at the beginning of this thread......I have copied new links....

Let me know if the Pics are visible or not please! !

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 17th, '17, 14:20
by Stephan
Looking good- Nice work Harry.
Stephan

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 17th, '17, 15:41
by Tommy
VERY nice, Harry; the pics came through and your handiwork is excellent!

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 17th, '17, 15:43
by Yannis
Super! Thanks.

Q: How many engines does this boat have? !!

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 17th, '17, 18:30
by Harry Babb
Yannis asked....
Q: How many engines does this boat have? !!
Ha! ! ! ...... Judging from the number of gages....ummmmmm! ! ! ..... I'd say 12! ! !.....LOL! !

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 17th, '17, 21:08
by Tony Meola
Harry

Nice work, Pics look good.

Boat cleaned up well for you after it took a mud bath.

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 18th, '17, 06:24
by Charlie J
I like it harry
looks great

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 18th, '17, 07:26
by PeterPalmieri
I can see

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 18th, '17, 17:13
by Stephan
Harry-
How did you do the lettering on the Hammerite?
Stephan

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 18th, '17, 20:14
by Harry Babb
Stephan wrote
How did you do the lettering on the Hammerite?
Stephan
Having unlimited access to CNC Machines makes the lettering painless. The entire panel was drawn to size in AutoCad. After printing a full scale template and deciding that everything fit as I intended, we moved to the "Mill" and bored for each gage, drilled for each light and added lettering. The lettering is actually machined into the aluminum panel with a 1/32" Ø Endmill.....the lettering is 1/16" deep. Then the panel was prepped and painted with Hammerite from a spray bomb. After painting I filled each letter with white paint.

The attached pic is actually looking at the backside of the aluminum panel......we were boring for the gages and cutting an O'Ring groove in the backside.....guess I did not get a pic of the lettering operation.



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Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 18th, '17, 20:47
by Stephan
Harry-
That is amazing to me. Reminds me of aircraft panels and faceplates for aircraft radios. That Aluminum looks thick!
Did you run the wiring to in De Nada to a large terminal block and then bundle pigtails for the leads to each gauge?
Also, how do you keep the tinted Lexan pieces from sliding when underway? My B31 rolls a little occasionally...
Best,
Stephan

Re: DeNada Instrument Panel

Posted: Nov 18th, '17, 21:37
by Harry Babb
Stephan Wrote
That is amazing to me. Reminds me of aircraft panels and faceplates for aircraft radios. That Aluminum looks thick!
Did you run the wiring to in De Nada to a large terminal block and then bundle pigtails for the leads to each gauge?
Also, how do you keep the tinted Lexan pieces from sliding when underway? My B31 rolls a little occasionally...
The aluminum IS pretty thick for an instrument panel....its 1/4" thick. It's just what I had around the shop.

I did not run instrument wires to a terminal block. The gages I bought (I will not buy the Onyx model again) are VDO Onyx. Each gage has a "Wiring Harness" that actual plugs into the back of each gage. Each gage has 8 wires (now you know why I will not buy them again). As I remember I only used 4 of the 8 wires...Ign, Sender, Ground and Illumination. To remove the gage it's as simple as unplugging wire connector and then remove the gage from the panel. I think the other 4 wires are intended for use on equipment that has the need to receive data from the gages....only a guess.

As far as the Lexan sliding....I intend to install some sort of magnetic "Keeper"....I've not addressed that issue yet.