6" Exhaust Thru Hull w/Flap - Where?

The Main Sand Box for bertram31.com

Moderators: CaptPatrick, mike ohlstein, Bruce

Post Reply
User avatar
JohnV8r
Senior Member
Posts: 625
Joined: Jun 29th, '06, 21:59
Location: Northern California Bay Area
Contact:

6" Exhaust Thru Hull w/Flap - Where?

Post by JohnV8r »

Guys,

When I move the exhaust outboard of the stringer, I will need to replace the exhaust thru hulls. Where can I get one that will fit the transom angle and is there one available with a flapper?

Thanks in advance.
Bertram 31 - The Best Boat Ever Built
User avatar
mike ohlstein
Site Admin
Posts: 2382
Joined: Jun 29th, '06, 11:39
Location: So many things seem like no-brainers until you run into someone with no brain.
Contact:

Re: 6" Exhaust Thru Hull w/Flap - Where?

Post by mike ohlstein »

Mike
Mean Team Leader
PREDATOR

Burn Oil
Eat Food
1973 FBC 1286 0273-315
User avatar
JohnV8r
Senior Member
Posts: 625
Joined: Jun 29th, '06, 21:59
Location: Northern California Bay Area
Contact:

Re: 6" Exhaust Thru Hull w/Flap - Where?

Post by JohnV8r »

Thanks Mike!
Bertram 31 - The Best Boat Ever Built
Yannis
Senior Member
Posts: 2978
Joined: Oct 23rd, '13, 09:41
Location: Athens, Greece

Re: 6" Exhaust Thru Hull w/Flap - Where?

Post by Yannis »

John,

I had mine made by my inox guy.
It doesn't show well in the pic, but the flaps are at an angle so that they remain closed at rest.
If I were to do them again, I would further accentuate that angle so that the flap weight keeps them shut even when the boat rolls.
There is a rubber liner on the inner side.



Image
1973 B28 FBC/2007 4LHA STP's - "Phantom Duck" - Hull "BER 00794 1172"
User avatar
bob lico
Senior Member
Posts: 5276
Joined: Jun 29th, '06, 19:22
Location: sayville,long island

Re: 6" Exhaust Thru Hull w/Flap - Where?

Post by bob lico »

john why do you need a flapper ? i have same bronze 6" exhaust with built in down angle to meet 6" exhaust hose on inside .
capt.bob lico
bero13010473
Yannis
Senior Member
Posts: 2978
Joined: Oct 23rd, '13, 09:41
Location: Athens, Greece

Re: 6" Exhaust Thru Hull w/Flap - Where?

Post by Yannis »

Bob,

The 31 may be different, but the 28 hull has no depth, at least outboard of the engines where the exhaust tubes are.
As a result, the engines are mounted so that the exhaust tube is parallel to the sea level (very little inclination), and , as if this was not enough, the turbos are also very close to sea level.
When I bought the boat it had no risers and the water in the exhaust tube was moving back and forth to the point that I had issues with the turbos.
I added custom risers and improved the exhaust through hulls; no more turbo issues.
Needless to say that my 240 Yanmars are the biggest engines one can fit in there without having to increase the height of the engine covers. They clear the cover by less than 2cm, I think one engine even leaves a push mark on the top insulation.
1973 B28 FBC/2007 4LHA STP's - "Phantom Duck" - Hull "BER 00794 1172"
User avatar
bob lico
Senior Member
Posts: 5276
Joined: Jun 29th, '06, 19:22
Location: sayville,long island

Re: 6" Exhaust Thru Hull w/Flap - Where?

Post by bob lico »

the 31 with 70 degree x 6" SS fitting at bottom of exhaust below vertical run on sprinkler head will give a perfect angle to muffler and then to exhaust at transom .you can go in reverse as fast as boat will go with water coming over transom gunnels filling up cockpit floor till it get dangerous while backing down on giant tuna or swordfish without even a through of slugging the engines (ask me how i know).
capt.bob lico
bero13010473
User avatar
JohnV8r
Senior Member
Posts: 625
Joined: Jun 29th, '06, 21:59
Location: Northern California Bay Area
Contact:

Re: 6" Exhaust Thru Hull w/Flap - Where?

Post by JohnV8r »

Bob,

I don't think I do need flappers after reading Bruce's post about where the corrosion in the exhaust ports in the heads were coming from. The mechanic who is handling the head replacement for me suggested I had an issue with water coming up over the risers that had caused corrosion in that location. Bruce dispelled that as the issue and explained the more likely source of the water.
Bertram 31 - The Best Boat Ever Built
User avatar
John F.
Senior Member
Posts: 2101
Joined: Jun 29th, '06, 07:58

Re: 6" Exhaust Thru Hull w/Flap - Where?

Post by John F. »

John-

I'm guessing you're moving the exhaust to 6" because you eventually are going to go with diesel. I have Detroit 8.2 mechanical diesels in Crows Nest. I put flappers on, as they seem to help with the diesel exhaust smell. My wife is doesn't like the diesel smell, and a set of Racor filters on the breathers and flappers on the exhaust helped a lot. Just a thought.

John
1968 B20 Moppie - Hull # 201-937
1969 B31 FBC - Hull # 315-881 (sold)
1977 B31 FBC - Hull # BERG1652M77J
User avatar
JP Dalik
Senior Member
Posts: 1317
Joined: Jun 30th, '06, 21:03
Location: Pt. Pleasant NJ
Contact:

Re: 6" Exhaust Thru Hull w/Flap - Where?

Post by JP Dalik »

You don't need flappers.
They are not used in most production boats.
Height above water line from exhaust elbow to waterline is the most crucial measurement.
Flappers only partially fix failed installations.
We put the old boat through her paces many times, anchored with engines off in large seas and coming back on different gamefish, number six was always alive and well.
Simple surge tubes help
Piss poor planning will always lead to piss poor performance.
KR


JP
1977 RLDT "CHIMERA"
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 48 guests