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Yannis

Has anyone tried to make a mock up of the curved windows with plaster bandage? They are sheets of fabric impregnated in plaster that, once wet, can take any shape. You can apply them on any surface and once dry they make a cast that can then be used as a mold for plexiglass which can be heated to sh...

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There is yet a more frightening inlet in France which not only is much narrower than this one here, but it also has shallows and scattered rocks...a nautical version of the Russian roulette, with more than one bullets in the barrel...

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Yes, Francesco, something wasn't quite right when I wrote 35...it was a 38. I remember having read that article. By Aegean you probably mean one of the marinas in Attica, I cant think of any island port during that time secure enough for winter conditions, let alone the non existent facilities. Now ...

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Tony, The few Bertram variations that were built outside the US Bertram facilities, were all Riva-Bertrams (like this 25) in Italy, perhaps also a variant of the 35 (?) that Carlo Riva used himself, and the 28 Caribbean built in Australia. I'm not aware of any others....perhaps also an Australian 42...

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I thought boating was supposed to be fun...
So, probably, all this shouting is their interpretation of enjoyment, certainly not fear! lol!

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C’mon guys, no one in their right minds would spend 6-800 for a panel like this. This brushed stainless or aluminium already exists in sheets, suffices to find a used panel to take dimensions of. The holes are custom anyway.

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Cam,

This with the outboard. With inboards positioned half way under a heavier hull would they still lift the stern?

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Is it this one?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/191620136 ... res/5g6hsS

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JJ, On my way back this September I encountered real Bertram weather and one of the damages was that all the cluster with all gauges plus the steering wheel, fell onto my feet... I took the cluster frame (after I removed all gauges) to my inox guy and he will copy-paste the frame with the exact gaug...

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Tony, this is another parameter for sure.

I fear the complexity of the math equations that have to be fed to the mending machine (which one?) to unwharp any dented prop...

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Haha, you know, each one here plays a role!
You have it with the old Bertram models and you’re not shy with modern props either!

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Haha, those 31 owners with their wet rides...hahaha

Francesco, io sono in Grecia, ad Atene, la mia barca si trove a Glyfada.
Bella La Spezia!

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Carl, do I suspect an initial flirt towards Hp augmentation?

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Tommy, tell us please which is the subject you have just inferior knowledge on !

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My 28 did not have a lower station and I never missed it.
You said you are in Italy, are you sure you need a lower station in the Med?
By the way, where in Italy are you? Thanks.

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Francesco, Fair enough! I though you may go the settee route, but if this fits your needs better go for it. I have a question: When the table surface will be used as a table, it will be like in the photo. If and when it will be used as a bed, it will be lowered at the seat level and will be covered ...

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Carl,

It's the same as in the new 35.
However, if destined to normal people, this double bed has to be 2m long. There is no room for diagonal sleeping and it's tight for two people especially when it's hot!

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Francesco,

If you plan to lower the cabin sole and choose to make a longitudinal settee/bed, make sure you leave adequate "not lowered" sole space in front of the settee so that sitting people can rest their feet, otherwise they will be hanging without ever reaching the floor!

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When Dick Bertram was designing these boats, the motors were much smaller and today's tech didn't exist. The gent just wanted to win the Bahamas race, the fastest boat to the Bahamas yes, but not the fastest boat per se, I assume. As a result, all the Bertrams that I travelled and enjoyed, are 35kno...

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You're right, one can push any motor to its limits.

What I was interested to know is what the biggest engine one can put on a 28 is, per manufacturers' data.
I understand, Carl, sadly not everybody has a 28...! LOL

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How long is it from the center forward (the anchor bulkhead) to the center of where would be the door in a 31? Also, instead of a pedestal you may consider a Lagun swivel plus the table surface of your choice...very practical and it either swivels away or is completely removed without a hole on the ...

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Francesco hi,

The table and double bench inside, will always be miserable to sit...perhaps you could consider putting a longitudinal settee or bed with a folding or removable table in-front. In that way you also have an extra bed. Make sure it’s 2 meters though!
Good luck!

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It would be interesting to know what the maximum horsepower figure is for the 28. I have yanmar 240’s and the structural supports on the hull are trimmed (lowered) by approx. 2-3 cm so that these motors can fit in the bay, of which the cover closes at a few millimeters from the engine top. I doubt t...

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Carl,

This company with the hybrid Jeep only serves the USA and Canada, d@mn it!!
I was ready to place an order when a pop up informed me of this limitation, d@mn it again!

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Carl,

You cannot imagine what the opening lower part of the 28 front windows can do for you!

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Never seen anything like this interior before.
Not sure if practical, nevertheless unique.
All these non-opening windows may require A/C...

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The no need for flaps, in what concerns the bow attitude, I understand. With so much power it is easier to obtain the attitude you wish faster and easier. However, what I don't understand is why wouldn't the flaps be useful, or even necessary, in the case of two people deciding to move from port to ...

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I wouldn't worry a bit.
I see the trailer has 4 double rollers on each side, thus plenty of support for the whatever little weight of this boat.
You can also take out one stringer at a time if you have concerns of rigidity.

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Tony,

From 10 to 12 December I will fly to London for my son’s graduation at the LSE.
I would consider making a loop through France and take a pic of that boat, provided I have an address and a name or tel to reach the owner.

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Peter, I dont know how easy is what Bruce suggests because there is still the weight to fight, however, may I add that putting a screw or pin that allows the V to swivel on the vertical stainless tube may render things a bit easier. Carl, My english might be deteriorating because back in the day a h...

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Doug,

stick to the inflating inflatable.

the hard dinghy is once every so often.

long trips with hard dinghies in the cockpit, smell issues.

we never disagreed on anything, we just embellished others' commonalities!

Cheers!

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A dinghy in the cockpit is rather impractical. Unfortunately. Takes up a lot of space and renders all crew movements very difficult. I did it with a 2.2 meter inflatable for a while, which is far lighter and presents no problem to just toss overboard, still getting around it to grab it was not easy....

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Thanks gents. My only interaction with tuna is canned tuna, and the occasional sushi tray at the supermarket. Also, when we were launching Rio mare canned tuna in Romania, they were telling us that it was yellowfin, which they were claiming was the best variety, but it may have been for marketing re...

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Which tuna is best tasting and probably most expensive?
Bluefin, yellowfin or some other one?
Thanks.

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Doug, The climate and probably the fact they only get charged by the solar panels, never plugged-in and never from a gen set. I have the impression that solar amps are a bit second class I see it also in the duration of other devices I charge on the boat, like the telephone or the shaving trimmer or...

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Oh, me too Carl, I appreciate the bold steps a few audacious owners took by installing the latest technology. I wish them the best of luck in this pioneering feat and, who knows, one day I also might follow in their footsteps. As for the companionway, I thought many times about placing the batteries...

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Carl, I don't know about statistics, but there have been billions of cars built with lead acid batteries, how often did you hear of a fire in any of them? One? Two? I will not put this new li ion technology into my boat unless I’m sure it doesn't catch fire, for the time being I cannot be sure. As f...

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You may be right. But they didn't say just no good. They said it kills them! I’m just saying what I read, which if it’s true, then it sounds like a problem... In the 28 and probably also in the 31 there is no alternative storage space for 4 batteries, space and balance wise, but the bilge. Unless yo...

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Carl, You triggered my nosiness and I googled Li Ion to see what I’d get... One site lead to another and finally I came upon this: “You wanna kill your Li Ion batteries? Throw them fully charged in a hot environment”. What? ???? So what is the temperature in my bilge after running the motors for a c...

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Carl, The point is to be able to take advantage of battery technology before we kick the bucket... In other words, I will still buy 4 new lead batteries next year, despite all these advances... I have a cousin who is a marine architect and long time power boat owner, he says, always buy the cheapest...

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Todd, Thanks for all this, much enlightening, Ill keep an eye for these batteries. One other thing that I observed this year is that now, in September, it has been VERY windy. Stranded as I am at the dock waiting for the weather to calm so I can leave to the next island, I noticed that the performan...

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Thank you, Todd, I just saw on youtube an incident, whereby there was a fire in some lithium batteries and it was impossible to put it out, even with the fire brigade, as a matter of fact they were saying that even if the fire is put out, it can restart in hours, days or even weeks! Brrrrrr.... I as...

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I am already! The thing is I will never have the roof real estate of a trailer and, I have to come to terms with Li-Ion batteries. I fear spontaneous fire and some...bank account issues! But, inevitably, with this climate change which brings tremendous heat waves that last longer, if I am to continu...

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Doug, All dinghies that I know are made in China and are using this pvc (I forget the name) material. So, really, unless you find a specific brand that uses hypalon (the original material of Cousteau’s Zodiacs) then they are all having a lifespan of around 3-5 years, depending on how much sun or har...

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Doug, how big is your dinghy? If its not too big, you will not save a lot of weight by swapping the floor. If its small, like 2-2,5 m, it will be costlier to do what you propose than buy a new one. The lightest dinghies are those with the inflatable floors, like the SUP’s. Then come those with slats...

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Tony,

Type “capbreton” on you tube and enjoy.
There are also other inlets in France, some even worse than this, because there are shallows on their sides...

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Tony,

When I want to frighten someone, I show them footage of yachts entering the Barnegat inlet...

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I was thinking about it, Tony, but only time will tell. Water should only be the faucet water I rinse the dust off the fwd deck, but snug as this foam sits under the buttoned down perforated shade on the window I could imagine it should stay in place for the few weeks till the end of the summer. Aft...

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Bingo! I touched the frame from the inside and was very hot. I decided that now is the time to run my test. I cut a strip of the foam and placed it over the starboard front window middle part that gets the hottest, as it is exposed to the west. I secured it in place with double sided tape, 5 vertica...

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Same happens to me with the water.
Push it with your foot to the opposite side after you're done showering!

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