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Tony Meola

You should have seen this place back in the day. It was a jumping site. A lot of good people have passed through this place. We have been lucky in that we stick to one conversation Boats and how to keep them running.

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Yannis

Glad to hear it worked out for you. Carl is right you got a deal. I think you need to upgrade your dinner beyond shrimp and a big toast with the best beverage you can find.

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Yannis

You could always turn them into wind chimes.

Tony Meola

Remember the older boats are heavier so I would say yours goes close to 14k. Do you have any commercial truck scales or how about scrap yard that has a drive on scale over there? See if they will let you weigh the trailer first then the boat on the trailer. That will be the only way of finding out.

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Yannis

When my friend replaced his last summer, I helped him search out a turbo deal. I found a lot of mixed reviews on the Chinese knock offs. Seemed the castings were not great and a lot of complaints about bolt holes not lining up.

Buy with caution.

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Mickey Sorry I don't remember if you tried changing the cap on the heat exchanger. If you haven't, I would give it a shot. Nothing to loose. A friend of mine had the same problem with gas engines on his Sea Ray. Chased it for three years. Same route as you. Still hasn't found it and is now having an...

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Yannis

Reach out to Turbo Turbos. They are original IHI turbos. That is what is on your engines. I believe they even have remans.

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Figure 12,000 lbs before stripping. Take out 220 to 230 gallons of gas at about 6lbs a gallon. That's 1,300 lbs. right there. Engines and transmissions probably come in at another 600 lbs so know you are down about 2,000 lbs. Pull out the rest, you are close but no guarantees. Problem is the older b...

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Mickey If you have air in the system, the reservoir will drop as the engine cools down. That would be the antifreeze being sucked back into the engine replacing the air that was pushed out. The air is only pushed out when the engine is running. I would think by now the air should be out of the syste...

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Mark

That is what they do. That is their job so it will not stop until we figure out how to shut them down.

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JJ, The wheel you're looking for is this one https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53578598848_939610b3e9_c.jpg As far as I know it has been installed until early 70s production and was previously used on Chris-Crafts. You can try with Chris-Crafts vintage parts resellers. It is one of the reasons I'...

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Carl

It is an old technology. I don't think it ever really caught on or was such an innovation every boat had to do it.

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JJ

The steering wheel on my 1975 was no great shakes new. It was basically an aluminum wheel that had a white vinyl coating that eventually pealed. The aluminum was nothing special once the coating came off. Wasn't even worth recoating.

Not sure what other boats had for Wheels.

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Carl The interesting thing is that there is a bleed off line, which is always there to release pressure. From the designs I saw online I don't see that it closes off at speed. That means it is hard to tell if the flow of water helps reduce back pressure. I am assuming that the flow of water helps a ...

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That just looks like a gutted hull waiting for some love.

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Upgrading might be the easier and best way to go. Better than chasing a gremlin.

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Carl I took a look around the internet and so it is true. They do have a bleed off of the exhaust until the boat gets up to speed. Notice they say it is the Venturi effect. LOL Finally I get to use a word that is not in my vocabulary. Based on this, the flow of water under the boat does not seem to ...

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If there is a ballast resistor in your ignition circuit, you should see significantly less than 12 volts at the coil. Check it with the engine running since some ignition systems have a relay which bypasses the ballast resistor to give the coil a full 12 volts for starting. Peter Not sure how old h...

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A 28 and a 31. I am sure we can find you a 20/25 & 26 to round out the stable.

What clearance do you need to trailer her?

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That is what I was thinking also, but isn't that the Venturi effect? In any event I would still think they need a bypass or bleed off of the Exhaust gas until it kicked in. So not sure it really accomplishes anything other than quiet down the boat and reduce or eliminate exhaust in the cockpit due t...

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Carl

I wonder if they shortened the shaft to keep the props positioned as when original or if they moved the props back. I have a feeling they moved the props back, and that's why they sucked in air.

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I have not looked at the underwater exhaust on any of the new boats, but I would think that they have an exhaust bypass so that the engines will start. They need to breath to start, and I might be wrong, but I would think they would be hard starting if the only exhaust was to push water out of the e...

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The year of the engines would help. I doubt the shop that redid them changed the ignition set up. Some of the older MerCruiser's, had what was called a Thunderbolt ignition and the coil was completely different from what most of us are used to. Plus in certain years I think they had some funky thing...

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How old are the engines?

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I will say my friends 28 transom is black by the end of the season. I put more hours on mine than he does and mine stays pretty clean. I do have to give it a good cleaning in the fall but from 5 feet away it looks clean.

I had attributed it yanmars smoke but maybe they are working too hard.

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If I remember correctly Centek Vernatone have a slim muffler that fits in that space outboard of the shaft alley. What size do you need? 6"?

Maybe something like this.

https://centekmarine.com/wp-content/upl ... -Sheet.pdf

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That would leave me to believe that it is not passing out the exhaust. It has to be a leak somewhere else. A leak in the exhaust manifold should also create steam unless it is really slow. Is it possible that the engine was airlocked and that air passed out on the last run? I had something similar w...

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Bilge might be dry, but if you have a leak that is hitting the hot engine it would dry up unless it was a bad leak. Check around the engine for any stains.

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Micky

How much did you lose? If it was a head gasket, I would suspect that you would see steam coming out the exhaust and possibly milky oil. Exhaust Manifold is always a possibility, or you have a leak somewhere.

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Joe

My friend has them in his 28. Pushes it along pretty good. He has no complaints.

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Unfortunately, the old Bertram employees with all the knowledge are no longer around. I remember sitting next to the old parts manager for Bertram at one of our AC gatherings. Tell him what part you need, and he could give you the part number off the top of his head.

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Any thoughts on using the old frame to make a fiberglass mold?

Or perhaps, covering the frame and glass with some type of release paper or saran wrap, and then make the solid piece using the frame as the mold.

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Doug The Whitaker Corporation owned Bertram Yachts along with Trojan Yachts for a number of years, before they sold them off. Whitaker purchased Bertram from Nautec in 1968. Whitaker was the basically the holding company for several other business ventures. At one point they were one of the largest ...

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Great news. Good to see that you are enjoying all your work.

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Kevin

Welcome back. You know, just because you weren't playing with the boat didn't mean you should stay away. It would be great to see some of the old crew come back even to just say hello.

So, whatever you do, don't drop out of site again.

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Mike

You are doing a good job, I have not seen anything strange.

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For some reason they are all this way and they also seem to differ at times from boat to boat.

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Not who I was thinking of.

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Was it a Bahia Mar?

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Yannis if I guessed right that is about $1,500 us dollars for new ones. My friend purchased two new ones from Turbo Turbo for $3,500 US. Not sure what kind of deal you can get with Shipping. He received free shipping, and he received a couple of hundred back for sending them the old ones. They had t...

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We also removed all of the old wood backing plate on the Thru hulls and used structural glass to replace them. I also drilled that structural glass and tapped it to give it threads matching a bronze bolt. Rather than go thru the hull with the bolt I just screwed into the backing plate we made. It is...

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That is similar to the format for the 31 also. I am sure Bertram used the same formula for all of its models.

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I only ask because an old family friend use to have his boat covered and with the heater on you couldn't stay in the cabin.

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Doug

Do you have any type of cover on her for the winter?

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When we rebuilt the Strut pads, we used structural fiberglass. Capt. Pat use to say that it was too rigid and to use marine ply glassed in. He felt that more damage would be done if it was rigid and had no give. Without testing it who knows. My feeling is that all the new boats are using glass for t...

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Worton Creek Marina does a lot of 31's. I have never used them, so I would check closely.

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Alex Whitaker use to be a supplier of Parts for the 31. I thought he liquidated all of his parts when he focused on the Trailer business.

He is a great guy and loves to talk 31's.

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Peter

Why not just pull one and just get it matched up.

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Thanks

Would be cool to just listen in. Heck down in South Jersey we have all kinds of aircraft going in and out of McGuire.

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