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Looks great! Let me know how the trailer works out, I’ll have to get a new one soon, been looking around. Super happy with the trailer. It is WAY beefier than I expected from the pictures. https://piratemarine.net/ It is a mom and pop trailer dealer but they haul the trailers themselves (from the f...

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Yes sir. The re-wire is second on the list. And the list is long allready!

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ktm_2000 wrote: #2 B25s can be known as self sinking, since it seems stern heavy, that placard is quite appropriate, leave the drain plugs in when you go away, let the bilge pumps take care of any rainwater.

There is not a threaded hull drain at the transom keel junction either.

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Great tip. Thank you. It will live on a trailer however for now.

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Here are my initial questions/comments for the group. Sorry to bombard the forum: 1. The previous owner drilled holes in the deck near the overboard deck drains. And, I assume from the bertram placard, those drains are supposed to be plugged while the boat is docked and unattended. This combined wit...

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The trailer is very well built. It poured down rain pretty much my entire drive through Ohio and West Virginia. So I was going pretty slowly all things considered. But I’m super happy with the trailer

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She looks to me to sit stern low. There is almost no fuel in the tanks. Is that a factor possibly?

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Its been 2.5 Months since I spoke to the broker and got this rolling. I drove Monday/Tuesday to Ohio to pick up the trailer, then the boat. I spent Tuesday afternoon removing loose items and dismantling anything that could get damaged in transport. Drove back today from OH to NC with wide load permi...

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Found an ebay seller selling Loadrite aluminum trailers for 24'-26' boats with an 8000lb+ capacity. This model: http://www.loadrite.com/spec-sheet-generation/?sheet_id=2853&sheet_model=LR-AB26T8400102LTB2 It was just under $5000 and was brand new and in stock only 2 hours from the boat. I'm picking ...

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Why would he put in a fiberglass tank instead of an aluminum one? Cost? Safety?

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Congratulations. That makes two new B 25 owners on here my mines a moppie

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ktm_2000 wrote: that tool befuddles me, starting and dragging to hit specific sizes is rough, no easy way to type them in.

You have been given bad training. It is very easy to type in dimensions.

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I know you are way beyond this step but I have found sketch-up free to be a valuable 3D planning tool. I could send you my file to save you some leg-work if you want it. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47924968852_3f5b43274d_c.jpg Screen Shot 2019-05-24 at 12.22.50 PM by ttownthomas , on Flickr

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Ended up buying this:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-Load-Rite ... 3211051719

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I just bought a '72 25 moppie. The surveyor found no issues with the stringers.

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CamB25 wrote:That looks pretty reasonable. What is wire in the upper part of the picture? Thru-hull transducer?

Yes

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heres the half of the tank we can see

UNADJUSTEDNONRAW_thumb_15ed by ttownthomas, on Flickr

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If fuel tank was replaced it should have a tag saying it is Coast Guard Complaint from fabricator. Tank could very well have been made better...but without sticker or paperwork you may have an issue insuring. If you do insure...fuel leaks insurance company may refuse claim based on non approved tan...

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I have posted a few threads here about the buying of this boat and about how far to take this restoration. Here are some photos and excerpts from the survey. Hopefully I can pick her up next week. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47115696164_bfa7649c18_c.jpg P5150737 by ttownthomas , on Flickr ht...

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We are bird of opposite feather. Me, if boat was safe and sound I'd enjoy and use. 1100 hours should be nothing if cared for. Drives...cav plate is a weld to repair. Not finding neutral...well gotta take care of that. But if all else is in good shape, I'd get done and enjoy. There are many more iss...

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Yes. Thats a good plan. I have to do some re-wiring first. It looks like a fire hazzard to me. There are alot of leads run right to the battery terminals.

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The quandary is real. I see the benefits of a full refit with outboards. If done right you can end up with a brand newish boat that would cost $200,000 to buy from a factory for a fraction of the cost. Dunno if that is 1/4, or 1/3 or 1/2. But a fraction nonetheless. On the other hand...If I have com...

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Next time you are out on Lea Island, or cruising Banks channel, or running the ICW, or walking a marina in the area, count the number of I/O boats you see. If you see one, it is likely owned by a northern transplant that has just moved to the area and hasn't had the time to sell it. Good point. The...

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What are your goals in owning the boat? I'm already a boat owner so Ill say what the goals are for this boat. My other boat is a skiff and I chose this boat because I like Bertrams, I wanted a towable boat because towing gives us access to all of the NC coast, it is capable and comfortable to go out...

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I am in the planning stage of a '72 Bertram 25 Moppie restoration. The big decision I have to make before the project starts is how to power her. The boat currently has 165 Mercruiser sterndrives. The Motors are running ok. They are rebuilt Jasper engines but I don't know how long ago. Probably 10 y...

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CamB25 wrote: Thanks. Filled and faired the woven roving. I needed to add some additional torture to my life.

Did you laminate chop strand onto it first? Or fair right over the roving?

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Is this better...Sorry I didn't post the full size. It is behind the dinette on the port side.

raw water by ttownthomas, on Flickr

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Are the interior hullsides (under the gunwales) new fiberglass inserts or did you glass, fair and paint on the original Bertram glass? It looks great

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Possible a wash down hose male connection????? With push/pull switch. Is there a fresh water tank. Same connection for both? Open/close ball valves for use of either????? Thats What I thought at first. I have all these pictures from the survey and it looks to me like there is a raw water seacock in...

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Thanks!

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My new to me B25 is still in ohio. All I have right now are pictures.

What is this?

Screen Shot 2019-05-02 at 9.45.30 PM by ttownthomas, on Flickr

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ktm_2000 wrote: Here's a pic when I got home https://photos.app.goo.gl/Z1bnQSCHQhPDgvNb7

Those wheels are dinky.

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I tow 100+ miles 5-8 times per year. And I drive fast. I have burned up plenty of hubs on my caronlina skiff trailer. I guess I know why. The dealer probably issued the minimum rated trailer. Lol.

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Anybody had their open boat weighed? CamB25 says his hull weighed 3200 pounds without engines and rigging.

Read somewhere that L6 Sterndrives are 650lbs each

3200 lb
650
650
= 4500 without rigging.

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I guess the big question in my mind is how close is the boat to 4450.

I know fiberglass gets heavier with time due to some water absorption. Whats unsettling for me is that the ads say both the FBC and the Moppie are both 4450.

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Buying a B25 from Ohio. Trailer is shot. Have to go pick it up and haul it back to NC. I have settled on a New trailer from a manufacturer I am familiar with and I am down to three choices. Here are the boat specs to the best of my research: 1972 Bertram 25 Mark II convertible (Its the open boat wit...

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Thanks for all this info. My truck is rated to tow 12,200lbs.

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I'm buying a B25 and it looks as though the trailer will not be road worthy enough to haul the boat from OH to NC. I'm thinking about taking the $2000 or so dollars it would cost to wrap and haul the boat and buy a brand new trailer. What kind of width trailer do I need and how much load capacity is...

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If your not planning on running it, I'm not sure a sea trail will yield any useful information other than it floats. I guess it depends on how $$ you are spending. The engines/outdrives are worth scrap prices. Everything else, probably less. Buy it cheap! I may run it a bit if it runs well, as sugg...

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Ttownthomas - Congrats on the 25. I keep a 31 on Catawba Island, about 10 mins from Marblehead, if I can help at all please let me know. When do you plan to come to Ohio? Charlie I'm not really sure when Ill make the trip. I'm from Toledo originally so Ill try and match up with a trip to see the fo...

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Comments from the out of water part of the survey. Surveyor has a good recommendation and was a personal referral. Per Surveyor: Boat is structurally sound, Cosmetically ok. Has an older paint job A small bit of moisture in the front deck but not excessive. Says the front deck is very solid. Cockpit...

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"Bertram" has one on their website.

https://www.bertram.com/assets/manuals/ ... Manual.pdf

If you have something different from this I would love a copy.

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Go to YouTube and search for "boatworks today". And look at his recent videos. It's the same video series

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Yessir. Lea island is the spot we frequent. Never had the courage to take the skiff out the inlet though.

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I'm not an engineer. Lol. But I had to be really sure it would fit. I had no plan yet for the transfer. There are alot of issues. Driveway is steep, Garage is 90 degrees from the street, etc. One step at a time. :) I have thought about cutting up the trailer, that is definitely a possibility. I will...

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I currently have a Carolina Skiff 218 DLV Elite that will still be used until this is done.

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First off I have an awesome wife. Then I have a welder friend and were gonna build a cart/cradle like this (only lower) to keep it nice and low and eliminate the trailer tongue problem: https://live.staticflickr.com/7825/46628509235_58f1117bf6_c.jpg foto4_zps1f01c4a1 by ttownthomas , on Flickr And m...

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I have this boat under contract. Time for a survey. https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1972/bertram-mk-ii-3238119/ Assuming it passes the survey I will bring it from OH to NC and document the build here. Facts about my boat choice: I picked a 25 because I can fit it in my garage I picked an open boat ...

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Thats great info. Thanks. I have a thing for old motors but breakdowns on the water are another thing altogether

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Looking good

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