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Re: Ethanol in the Northeast *LINK*

Posted By: Ken
Date: Tuesday, 16 November 2004, at 12:37 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Ethanol in the Northeast (Capt. Mike Holmes)

People are definitely getting their alcohols mixed (pun intended). I suggest going right to the source (alcohol suppliers)for some clarification. Here is a good place to start:
http://www.chevron.com/prodserv/fuels/bulletin/motorgas/4_oxygenated-gasoline/default.asp
You will find:
- Ethanol causes fuel leaning
- Ethanol increases the possibility of vapor lock
- Ethanol (not methanol) causes phase separation. Once the alcohol has absorbed enough water from the air or from tank contamination, fuel in the tank will separate into two very distinct layers; a top phase of almost all gas (or gas/oil if oil is pre-mixed, a bottom layer of water/alcohol. (Think about the consequences...especially with engines using manually-mixed gas/oil!)
- Water in the bottom layer of phase-separated fuel will cause corrosion
- Ethanol will swell and/or soften certain natural and synthetic elastomers
- Ethanol oxygenated gas has much greater solvency than gas alone ... will disolve many types of residues on the interior of storage tanks and fuel systems
- Ethanol can permeate non-metal fuel system components

Plus: Some plastics are definitely dissolving in ethanol-oxygenated fuel. Topping off a tank containing MTBE-oxygenated gas with ethanol-oxygenated gas can cause formation of a "gooey" gel which has been causing additional problems in filters and fuel pumps...

http://www.chevron.com/prodserv/fuels/bulletin/motorgas/4_oxygenated-gasoline/default.asp

Messages In This Thread

Ethanol in the Northeast
Walter Kaprielian -- Thursday, 28 October 2004, at 10:44 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
mike ohlstein -- Friday, 29 October 2004, at 12:26 a.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
Rich H -- Friday, 29 October 2004, at 7:16 a.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
randall -- Friday, 29 October 2004, at 9:28 a.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
John Dunker -- Friday, 29 October 2004, at 10:39 a.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
carl -- Friday, 29 October 2004, at 3:22 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
Fred B -- Sunday, 31 October 2004, at 8:43 a.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
Capt. Mike Holmes -- Tuesday, 2 November 2004, at 8:39 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast *LINK*
Ken -- Tuesday, 16 November 2004, at 12:37 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
Joseph Zock -- Tuesday, 26 July 2005, at 9:57 a.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
Rich H -- Wednesday, 27 July 2005, at 9:02 a.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
dave -- Tuesday, 2 August 2005, at 10:25 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
mike ohlstein -- Tuesday, 2 August 2005, at 11:28 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
Mark S -- Wednesday, 3 August 2005, at 7:20 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
mike ohlstein -- Wednesday, 3 August 2005, at 7:53 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
Dave Decker -- Saturday, 5 November 2005, at 11:33 a.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
jim -- Wednesday, 7 September 2005, at 3:12 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
mike ohlstein -- Wednesday, 7 September 2005, at 4:08 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
bruce -- Wednesday, 7 September 2005, at 5:32 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
Kevin Mehegan -- Wednesday, 7 September 2005, at 5:58 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
bruce -- Wednesday, 7 September 2005, at 9:05 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
randall -- Wednesday, 7 September 2005, at 9:24 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
Gary Gibson -- Wednesday, 7 September 2005, at 10:02 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
Kevin Mehegan -- Wednesday, 7 September 2005, at 10:38 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
jim -- Friday, 30 September 2005, at 5:22 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
mike ohlstein -- Friday, 30 September 2005, at 9:17 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
randall -- Saturday, 1 October 2005, at 12:09 a.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
mike ohlstein -- Saturday, 1 October 2005, at 1:01 a.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
jim -- Saturday, 1 October 2005, at 11:52 a.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
jim -- Monday, 17 October 2005, at 5:01 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
jim -- Friday, 4 November 2005, at 9:48 a.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
Carl -- Friday, 4 November 2005, at 10:39 a.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
Walter Kaprielian -- Friday, 4 November 2005, at 4:11 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
jim -- Friday, 4 November 2005, at 9:56 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
jim -- Thursday, 8 September 2005, at 10:25 a.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
Walter Kaprielian -- Thursday, 8 September 2005, at 11:17 a.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
jim -- Thursday, 8 September 2005, at 11:56 a.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
randall -- Thursday, 8 September 2005, at 1:26 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
jim -- Thursday, 8 September 2005, at 4:29 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
randall -- Thursday, 8 September 2005, at 5:11 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
jim -- Thursday, 8 September 2005, at 5:36 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
jim -- Sunday, 11 September 2005, at 9:44 a.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
Jim Wolfe -- Thursday, 8 September 2005, at 12:39 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
jim -- Thursday, 8 September 2005, at 4:22 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
Carl -- Thursday, 8 September 2005, at 6:16 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
jim -- Thursday, 8 September 2005, at 9:02 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
Carl -- Friday, 9 September 2005, at 7:18 a.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
jim -- Monday, 12 September 2005, at 10:37 a.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
Carl -- Monday, 12 September 2005, at 10:55 a.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
jim -- Monday, 12 September 2005, at 11:35 a.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
Carl -- Monday, 12 September 2005, at 2:24 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
jim -- Monday, 12 September 2005, at 2:39 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
Carl -- Monday, 12 September 2005, at 5:50 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
jim -- Monday, 12 September 2005, at 8:38 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
jim -- Monday, 12 September 2005, at 8:50 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
Carl -- Tuesday, 13 September 2005, at 7:48 a.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
jim -- Tuesday, 13 September 2005, at 8:38 a.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
Carl -- Tuesday, 13 September 2005, at 11:31 a.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
jim -- Tuesday, 13 September 2005, at 11:39 a.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
jim -- Tuesday, 13 September 2005, at 11:36 a.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
Carl -- Tuesday, 13 September 2005, at 2:24 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
Walter Kaprielian -- Tuesday, 13 September 2005, at 6:51 p.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
Carl -- Wednesday, 14 September 2005, at 8:20 a.m.

Re: Ethanol in the Northeast
jim -- Friday, 30 September 2005, at 8:15 p.m.